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Post by sigurdur on Sept 5, 2017 3:33:21 GMT
I know temperature was sure to be way cooler way back in the 1910-1945 time frame. So say all the adjusted graphs etc.
Yet antidotes seem to contradict the reformatted temperature.
Blistering heat, exceptional dryness etc. Just makes on have to wonder a little bit? Newspaper reports about Arctic Ice being so low. St Roch sailing for days and not observing ice.
Something just isn't adding up.
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Post by missouriboy on Sept 5, 2017 5:55:49 GMT
I know temperature was sure to be way cooler way back in the 1910-1945 time frame. So say all the adjusted graphs etc. Yet antidotes seem to contradict the reformatted temperature. Blistering heat, exceptional dryness etc. Just makes on have to wonder a little bit? Newspaper reports about Arctic Ice being so low. St Roch sailing for days and not observing ice. Something just isn't adding up. I had it all explained very succinctly to me the other day. The old folks just thought it was hot cause they'd never seen heat like ours ... and they used those old thermometers that always ran hot (not like those dependable Chinese ones we have today) ... so naturally they used grand adjectives to describe it. And just look. We actually NEED air conditioning just to survive today. And what's to be said about blind sea captains that sail in circles. I was assured that that should settle any lingering doubts I might have ... and wasn't it wonderful to live in an age where science was on the cusp of solving all those problems that the old folks had made. And brother ... can you spare a billion k?
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Post by graywolf on Sept 5, 2017 11:09:34 GMT
Red sun today ... seen through a very hazy atmosphere. Western smoke I assume. There is a brown-yellow tint starting up in the forest canopy here. VERY early if my memory serves. We , the UK, are seeing some 'odd' leaf fall this past week. The leaves are still green yet falling dry? We are told august had above average rainfall but this type of 'fall' is normally associated with drought/heat stress??? All I can think is the spring weather we suffered all summer did not 'soak' the ground but showered over it which was then re-evaporated as soon as the summer sun peeped out? Either that or Pan evaporation rates are still recovering from the 1940's to 1980's lows? but then our air has been sourced from the top of Greenland so has been 'clean' air masses all summer? Maybe that alone would lead to higher pan evap rates? The other indicator is how low the river drops once rain has passed? The water table here must be a 'proper' summer levels for the first time in years!!!
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Post by nautonnier on Sept 5, 2017 12:41:50 GMT
Red sun today ... seen through a very hazy atmosphere. Western smoke I assume. There is a brown-yellow tint starting up in the forest canopy here. VERY early if my memory serves. We , the UK, are seeing some 'odd' leaf fall this past week. The leaves are still green yet falling dry? We are told august had above average rainfall but this type of 'fall' is normally associated with drought/heat stress??? All I can think is the spring weather we suffered all summer did not 'soak' the ground but showered over it which was then re-evaporated as soon as the summer sun peeped out? Either that or Pan evaporation rates are still recovering from the 1940's to 1980's lows? but then our air has been sourced from the top of Greenland so has been 'clean' air masses all summer? Maybe that alone would lead to higher pan evap rates? The other indicator is how low the river drops once rain has passed? The water table here must be a 'proper' summer levels for the first time in years!!! It is probable that the wavelengths from the Sun have altered. Plants are extremely sensitive to small changes in certain wavelengths - talk to a market gardener on how careful they have to be in choice of glass for glass houses. So although the 'average' energy is the same it is being distributed differently.
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Post by acidohm on Sept 5, 2017 15:59:49 GMT
Adapt 2030 mentioned in a vid how uv a/b ratios were altered and the evidence of this could be seen in sunburnt sea creatures.
Personally, i have definitely reacted to the sun differently in the past 3 years...i now avoid it, i used to bask!
I could find no literature to support this however.
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Post by nautonnier on Sept 5, 2017 16:38:38 GMT
Adapt 2030 mentioned in a vid how uv a/b ratios were altered and the evidence of this could be seen in sunburnt sea creatures. Personally, i have definitely reacted to the sun differently in the past 3 years...i now avoid it, i used to bask! I could find no literature to support this however. Claim by REN on WUWT that there is a large change in geomagnetic activity - blaming the hurricanes on that
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Post by missouriboy on Sept 5, 2017 19:54:00 GMT
Adapt 2030 mentioned in a vid how uv a/b ratios were altered and the evidence of this could be seen in sunburnt sea creatures. Personally, i have definitely reacted to the sun differently in the past 3 years...i now avoid it, i used to bask! I could find no literature to support this however. You're riding the crest of unsettled science. Dig deep and digest. You could be famous by 2025. Or ... I can't quantify it, but the whole plant experience looks different this year. Fruit that survived the frost have less bug damage and fungus seems to be a lot lower, among other things. My pollinators are still plentiful ... lots of butterflies. No insecticide or fungicide applied. Maybe the late frost wiped out a pest generation? So many questions.
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Post by Ratty on Sept 6, 2017 6:28:54 GMT
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Post by missouriboy on Sept 7, 2017 17:23:52 GMT
My wife has noticed some new animal behavior. I have potted tomato plants on the deck and use twine to support the branches along the railing. Seems yesterday she found a squirrel busily attempting to untie my bow knots holding the twine in place. Interpretation: good winter nesting material is hard to find?
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Post by nautonnier on Sept 7, 2017 18:18:38 GMT
My wife has noticed some new animal behavior. I have potted tomato plants on the deck and use twine to support the branches along the railing. Seems yesterday she found a squirrel busily attempting to untie my bow knots holding the twine in place. Interpretation: good winter nesting material is hard to find? Probably upset at such primitive 'knots' and wanting to replace them with clove hitch, bowlines and sheep bends
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Post by nonentropic on Sept 7, 2017 18:21:36 GMT
It's the understanding of your knots that worries me more.
Your Graphs are complex and I am sure your knots will also be.
Was in CA last week love those long furry tail rats you call squirrels.
come in Ratty you can grow one.
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Post by acidohm on Sept 7, 2017 19:03:40 GMT
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Post by missouriboy on Sept 7, 2017 19:35:01 GMT
My wife has noticed some new animal behavior. I have potted tomato plants on the deck and use twine to support the branches along the railing. Seems yesterday she found a squirrel busily attempting to untie my bow knots holding the twine in place. Interpretation: good winter nesting material is hard to find? Probably upset at such primitive 'knots' and wanting to replace them with clove hitch, bowlines and sheep bends Undoubtedly. Even the squirrels are 'progressive' in this college town.
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Post by missouriboy on Sept 7, 2017 20:02:42 GMT
It's the understanding of your knots that worries me more. Your Graphs are complex and I am sure your knots will also be. Was in CA last week love those long furry tail rats you call squirrels. come in Ratty you can grow one. They're really quite bright little guys, but seem to suffer from proximity to the university. Their 40-lb cousins up at the farm build winter palaces in the tree tops. We have a trading relationship. Used to be a few colorful trinkets would get me a sack of hickory nuts. Lately they've been demanding hammers, nails and little saws. My descendants are going to have to keep an eye on them.
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Post by missouriboy on Sept 7, 2017 20:09:46 GMT
I wonder where it's hiding at. Can't say I've noticed it around here.
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