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Post by nautonnier on Nov 12, 2017 16:40:54 GMT
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Post by acidohm on Nov 12, 2017 19:46:54 GMT
Thing I like about the last two Nina's have been the quite beautiful opposing waves N&S of the centre line. Nino really washes east in blobby pulses which don't really look like much, the nina's however have a much more pleasing eddy type definition.
My interpretation of this is a Nina offers more resistance to the status quo hence more turbulence and fluid dynamics are evident, nino is an extenuation of typical conditions and in effect the gate is open to it, the ocean naturally wishes to send warm water east...
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Post by nautonnier on Nov 12, 2017 20:03:55 GMT
Thing I like about the last two Nina's have been the quite beautiful opposing waves N&S of the centre line. Nino really washes east in blobby pulses which don't really look like much, the nina's however have a much more pleasing eddy type definition. My interpretation of this is a Nina offers more resistance to the status quo hence more turbulence and fluid dynamics are evident, nino is an extenuation of typical conditions and in effect the gate is open to it, the ocean naturally wishes to send warm water east... I agree. What is more interesting is that normally the Nina will force the Kuroshio current North into the Northern Pacific as a warm current Have to see if that happens this time. The Nina is normally seen as a heat recharge cycle - but the Sun is quiescent. If the TSI is biased to the longer wavelengths then Nina may not recharge the heat lost. Get your popcorn now
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Post by missouriboy on Nov 12, 2017 20:49:52 GMT
Thing I like about the last two Nina's have been the quite beautiful opposing waves N&S of the centre line. Nino really washes east in blobby pulses which don't really look like much, the nina's however have a much more pleasing eddy type definition.My interpretation of this is a Nina offers more resistance to the status quo hence more turbulence and fluid dynamics are evident, nino is an extenuation of typical conditions and in effect the gate is open to it, the ocean naturally wishes to send warm water east... Quite right.
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Post by sigurdur on Nov 15, 2017 13:49:08 GMT
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Post by acidohm on Nov 22, 2017 20:32:09 GMT
1+2 region warming rapidly.....
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Post by nautonnier on Nov 23, 2017 0:02:57 GMT
1+2 region warming rapidly..... That is just what I thought looking at this SST graphic... it's getting really really hot...
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Post by Ratty on Nov 23, 2017 3:32:39 GMT
Acid has consulted the models.
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ENSO 2017
Nov 23, 2017 5:56:32 GMT
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Post by acidohm on Nov 23, 2017 5:56:32 GMT
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Post by Ratty on Nov 23, 2017 6:41:09 GMT
Odd?
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Post by missouriboy on Nov 23, 2017 8:10:05 GMT
Odd? Someone got their thumb on the button again??
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Post by Ratty on Nov 23, 2017 8:17:26 GMT
[ Snip ] Someone got their thumb on the button again?? An elbow, I think.
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Post by nautonnier on Nov 23, 2017 9:46:07 GMT
Odd? Someone got their thumb on the button again?? No I think the way that they do it is that they have declared small geographic boxes as 'markers' for ENSO events. such as Nino 3 and 4. In this case the swirl of water has meant an intrusion of some warm into the mass of cold in 1 and 2 so as good little climate scientists they will shout and publish about 1 and 2 getting rapidly warm.... completely disregarding the cold SSTs elsewhere. That adults can act this stupidly shows that they must practice it.
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ENSO 2017
Nov 23, 2017 9:56:43 GMT
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Post by acidohm on Nov 23, 2017 9:56:43 GMT
I see it as an indication as to the future development of the nina, subsurface are still cold but perhaps we've seen the end of the development of this enso event.
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Post by nautonnier on Nov 23, 2017 10:09:51 GMT
I see it as an indication as to the future development of the nina, subsurface are still cold but perhaps we've seen the end of the development of this enso event. If it _is_ an ENSO event. It certainly hasn't got the clean cut equatorial band of cold/hot look about it. A vast area of the eastern South Pacific is cold. Due to the heat capacity of water, that is a LOT of missing heat probably close to equal to all the heat in the Earth's atmosphere.
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