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Post by missouriboy on Feb 27, 2018 11:19:21 GMT
Miami beach started as just a sandbar which some 'entrepreneurs' in the late 1800's bought at a whole 25c an acre and tried to farm coconut palms. They failed as the local fauna ate the coconuts. A lot of Florida is recovered swampland which strangely now is conserved rather than seen as a waste of space. Miami was worse than 'swampland', inland of the Miami sandbar was flooded mangrove swamp acres and acres of it. Around the early 1900's more rich entrepreneurs from the North thought that they would clear the swamp and dredge the area so that there was open water to allow boat racing. The dredged sand and sludge was piled onto the sand bar and the rest dumped becoming sludge islands a bridge was built across the sludge to the farm on the peninsula which became the longest wooden road bridge in the world. This took lots of labor in the humid 100F heat with mosquitoes and all the other unpleasantness. The town of Miami Beach was incorporated on the recovered sandbar and swamp in 1915. Casinos were built alongside the beach by yet another entrepreneur. Henry Flagler another entrepreneur was building the railway south along the East Coast of Florida. It is claimed that he was persuaded to extend south to Miami because of the 'alligator pear' (avocado) crop that was now successful where coconuts had failed. The railway was eventually to be extended all the way to Key West at the bottom of the Florida Keys. Like the longest wooden bridge though, it has not survived and was replaced with the current road - a _really_ nice drive. See some of the backstory here: miami-history.com/an-unlikely-partnership-fisher-meets-collins/ Miami beach still needs to replace the beach with dredged sand it is artificial. As with New Orleans, the land is being continually drained to prevent its reversion to mangrove swamp, and the dried sludge shrinks and subsides. The islands of dredged sludge have now got expensive homes owned by the famous for being famous. Spring tides especially linked to strong winds can flood across the sandbar and as seen recently storm surge will easily cross Miami Beach and even flood Miami itself. So yes when that happens and even at high tides cheaply plumbed homes at sea level will find that they are 'getting their own back' Pandemics do not start from the occasional eflux of sewage, it is more likely that a new version of a common virus will do that. Miami being rather sunny does not have a large vitamin D deficient population - so a viral pandemic is more likely in a large city in winter when vitamin D levels and natural immunity is low or in a '3rd world' country where populations live in close proximity to livestock and tend not to have easy access to medical care. Well you asked I can see a "New Venice" if you have enough backhoes. Housing stock may need to be vertically extended or recycled. Good news about the pandemics though.
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Post by Ratty on Feb 27, 2018 12:32:19 GMT
[ Snip ] I can see a "New Venice" if you have enough backhoes. Housing stock may need to be vertically extended or recycled. Good news about the pandemics though. 'New Venice? Catchy. The Gold Coast might qualify too ... Zoom in (or out) on this lot: Canal DevelopmentsWe're safe from sea level rise as long as there are enough backhoes and enough 'visionary' developers.
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Post by sigurdur on Feb 27, 2018 18:13:55 GMT
That is sad. The beauty of snow is actually amazing for those who have never experienced it, you do need to put it on your bucket list.
Life is always a risk.
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Post by sigurdur on Feb 27, 2018 18:18:20 GMT
You look really good on those skis Code!! Not sure I have it in me anymore to ski that type of slope.
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Post by Ratty on Feb 28, 2018 12:29:04 GMT
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Post by missouriboy on Feb 28, 2018 16:21:13 GMT
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Post by acidohm on Feb 28, 2018 17:59:22 GMT
Hi Missouri! Been watching this low for 10 days...it looked worse then, but as far as anyone can tell, the South West, which hardly ever gets frost let alone snow, will get it, maybe up as far as south Wales and east to Oxford. One thing for sure, models performed excellently in the last 10 days, unusually considering the last 2 winters....but now, not so much. It is very chilly...i bought screen wash cheap at the weekend, got ill, by the time I gathered my wits on Tuesday, the washer pump has frozen, now can't clean windscreen 😝 but truck starts at -7°c so that's something 🖒 Not expecting much Friday....but I could be fooled, larder is stocked in any case....
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Post by missouriboy on Feb 28, 2018 20:24:00 GMT
Hi Missouri! Been watching this low for 10 days...it looked worse then, but as far as anyone can tell, the South West, which hardly ever gets frost let alone snow, will get it, maybe up as far as south Wales and east to Oxford. One thing for sure, models performed excellently in the last 10 days, unusually considering the last 2 winters....but now, not so much. It is very chilly...i bought screen wash cheap at the weekend, got ill, by the time I gathered my wits on Tuesday, the washer pump has frozen, now can't clean windscreen 😝 but truck starts at -7°c so that's something 🖒 Not expecting much Friday....but I could be fooled, larder is stocked in any case.... You'd think they would be getting better. What do you suppose is the problem? ... Other than the fact they are models. Take heart in the fact that Croatia looked worse, but perhaps further north than Baska Voda, Looks like Bulgaria got whacked. Here at 39N the birds have decided it's spring. Birds or models? Weather channel 10 day forecasts look cheery ... high 40s to low 60s F. Perhaps that cold bulge will slide past us ... but we need the rain ... normal for Dec-Feb, but 5 inches below for fall. We just got the lower-yield north flank of that river that roared northeast across the Ozarks. Those deep springs across the Ozark Plateau (biggest in the country) should keep recharging. Great canoe waters by the way ... multiple very large springs provide a steady base flow with a good gradient flowing through coarse alluvium with the occasional bedrock ledges. No development. Hard to kill yourself, but occasionally someone will succeed. Looks like we are spared because that big cold blob decided to go your way. www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfse_cartes.php?&ech=12&mode=0&carte=1In your spare time here is an hour long technical(?) piece from Suspicious Observers. Only part way through so we'll see. www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsqZJP54shg
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Post by acidohm on Feb 28, 2018 21:46:36 GMT
Thanks, I'll check it out 🖒🖒
Problem with models is, in our case, they want to return conditions back to an average. So, they try and introduce warmth/zonal predominantly.
Copied from gavswesther forum:
As someone who has a true affinity for cold and extreme weather this has been long coming! I look on from overseas in North America for all fellow Irish posters!
We recently had a major frontal snow event in the US Midwest that is shaping up just like what is happening in Ireland right now.
GFS and others originally predicted a snow to rain event and an immediate transition to mild southwesterly winds across Chicagoland. What transpired was 30 hours of snow giving 12-15 inches generally with localized amounts of two feet.
There is a definitive shift to a more serious evolution tomorrow night into Friday. Should this transpire; that combined with the already exceptional snowfall totals will leave this as a once in generation event.
Will be very interesting to see if there's an analogous circumstance on Friday....
Btw, Basko Voda got a dusting couple of days ago, first in 5/6 years or more...
For sure you got spared the blue blob, but check out those isobars...thats a long easterly fetch from siberia licking the coast of Labrador!! That's some break down of the usual zonal flow!!!
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Post by missouriboy on Mar 1, 2018 4:08:48 GMT
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Post by nautonnier on Mar 1, 2018 10:35:54 GMT
Well "they didn't know what snow was" - and now they've only just worked out what it is that is 40cm deep all around them so 'unprecedented'. I can remember snow lying all day and gales blowing the snow sideways in Lincolnshire in the late 60's seems that all that many have forgotten about this type of weather. 2010 was cold but not as windy.
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Post by acidohm on Mar 1, 2018 11:03:10 GMT
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Post by missouriboy on Mar 1, 2018 14:03:13 GMT
Might be an excellent time for parliament to "summon" the East Anglia Climate Unit and Met Office to deliver an "in-depth" technical explanation as to how such things can be explained in a "warming" world. Televise nationally if the grid is still up. Budgetary hearings scheduled for the next day. A select set of non-groupthink graduate students might replace the whole lot. They should be pressed hard to scientifically show how this little set of talking points is not politically correct "garbage". Tickets to the "show" and "hangings" might generate serious revenue. www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/feb/28/what-does-snow-mean-climate-change-beast-from-the-east-polar-vortex-freezing-temperatureAmongst the comments from the Guardian - shazza2704 29m ago Sidney our resident squirrel has been nicking the peanuts from the bird feeders and burying them in the garden for several days now. Sidney is very sensible. We are sitting smack bang in the red zone scheduled to get hit by Storm Emma from 3 pm, wind and snow is really picking up now.
This might fit better elsewhere, but since you mentioned "the grid", this link contains a video (Hacking Germany ~page 3) discussing amongst other things hacking the European electric grid. That might be inconvenient right about now. It's a brave new world. www.dw.com/en/germany-admits-hackers-infiltrated-federal-ministries-russian-group-suspected/a-42775517
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Post by nautonnier on Mar 1, 2018 15:29:09 GMT
I should point out that this is the first day of SPRING
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Post by acidohm on Mar 1, 2018 22:31:10 GMT
I should point out that this is the first day of SPRING Potentially one of the coldest 1st March EVAH in UK....-5°c during day in Oxford...
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