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Post by leashl on Feb 22, 2009 2:20:05 GMT
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Post by rbateman on Feb 22, 2009 2:50:26 GMT
Only the Russian scientists as a group are taking this seriously. Putin and Medvedev have bet on it staying inactive and getting very cold. Considering what happens in that country if one is wrong, I'd say those Russian scientists are serenely confident. You can pick up thier stance on this on Pravda. The US is blacked out on it.
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Post by edjr on Feb 22, 2009 3:42:24 GMT
Sad when you have to count on the Russians to get th truth out. We don't need political censors the media does it voluntarily.
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Post by savethesharks on Feb 22, 2009 3:51:06 GMT
And it is really puzzling....so very puzzling...as to why the "Western" world with all its advancements, can be so collectively stupid at this point. A long time ago (I remember the Soviet Empire) we used to scoff at Pravda becuase it was so politicized. But now the tables have turned...and the NEW bastion of Newspeak is not Pravda nor Isvestia....but the Associated Press! And while the Russians prepare for the advancing Ice Age.....the American "soviet" director of the Goddard Space Center, (and as a government employee (!) no doubt) has the gall to get on YouTube to promote a massive civil disobedience protest March 2 in DC against "Global Warming". Generations from now are going to look back through the frozen annals of history in disbelief as to how such widespread deception could occur. But thats what happens when people without vision are in charge. BRRR....we will survive....but in spite of (rather than because of) the current leadership in the western world.
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Post by msphar on Feb 22, 2009 21:48:35 GMT
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Post by m6cmg on Feb 22, 2009 22:53:21 GMT
Well my thunder has been stolen. I was just looking through the site and wondering where to post a link to the article in my local newspaper. It seems like sheer coincidence,that this article should appear in our local just 2 days after i'd suggested the same thing to a friend during a qso on the 2m band.
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Post by rbateman on Feb 22, 2009 23:00:30 GMT
My dad was a radio operator duing WWII. So he had lots of radios lying about, and we borrowed shortwave one and listened into Radio Moscow and Radio Hanoi. It was so outrageous that we tape recorded it and used it for our socialogy project. We got an A.
Sadly, it's the news coming out of NASA and IPCC that is so outrageous. The minimalists are winning. Carbon taxes don't grow food. Soaking the CO2 out of the atmosphere at the same time colder oceans are sinking it will suffocate plant life. We'll be lucky to have a coal plant nearby to pump the CO2 into greenhouses.
But today, the Sun is blank of spots, the magnetogram is a slab of granite, the F10.7 flux is flatlined, the CR's are up higher than ever, the PDO has gone cold, the ice returneth its been 40 days since the last SC24 spot. Still, there is not a word spoken in the Media about the failed Solar Cycle. Before the Supreme Court, they argue over Carbon Taxing.
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Post by calmann on Feb 23, 2009 1:34:46 GMT
Why are these posts here, and not in the global warming section of this board? It seems like every year this happens. Kevin might need to nudge these folks back to their rightful spot again.
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Post by magellan on Feb 23, 2009 2:42:13 GMT
And it is really puzzling....so very puzzling...as to why the "Western" world with all its advancements, can be so collectively stupid at this point. A long time ago (I remember the Soviet Empire) we used to scoff at Pravda becuase it was so politicized. But now the tables have turned...and the NEW bastion of Newspeak is not Pravda nor Isvestia....but the Associated Press! And while the Russians prepare for the advancing Ice Age.....the American "soviet" director of the Goddard Space Center, (and as a government employee (!) no doubt) has the gall to get on YouTube to promote a massive civil disobedience protest March 2 in DC against "Global Warming". Generations from now are going to look back through the frozen annals of history in disbelief as to how such widespread deception could occur. But thats what happens when people without vision are in charge. BRRR....we will survive....but in spite of (rather than because of) the current leadership in the western world. .....why the "Western" world with all its advancements, can be so collectively stupid at this point. The answer to your question: wattsupwiththat.com/2009/02/22/the-madness-is-about-to-begin/wattsupwiththat.com/2009/02/21/ikes-second-warning-hint-it-is-not-the-military-industrial-complex/
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Post by trbixler on Feb 23, 2009 3:09:00 GMT
And it is really puzzling....so very puzzling...as to why the "Western" world with all its advancements, can be so collectively stupid at this point. A long time ago (I remember the Soviet Empire) we used to scoff at Pravda becuase it was so politicized. But now the tables have turned...and the NEW bastion of Newspeak is not Pravda nor Isvestia....but the Associated Press! And while the Russians prepare for the advancing Ice Age.....the American "soviet" director of the Goddard Space Center, (and as a government employee (!) no doubt) has the gall to get on YouTube to promote a massive civil disobedience protest March 2 in DC against "Global Warming". Generations from now are going to look back through the frozen annals of history in disbelief as to how such widespread deception could occur. But thats what happens when people without vision are in charge. BRRR....we will survive....but in spite of (rather than because of) the current leadership in the western world. .....why the "Western" world with all its advancements, can be so collectively stupid at this point. The answer to your question: wattsupwiththat.com/2009/02/22/the-madness-is-about-to-begin/wattsupwiththat.com/2009/02/21/ikes-second-warning-hint-it-is-not-the-military-industrial-complex/This story is worth its own thread!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The Obama administration is attempting to kill the U.S. as we know it.
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Post by nautonnier on Feb 23, 2009 3:18:52 GMT
This story is worth its own thread!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The Obama administration is attempting to kill the U.S. as we know it. "The White House is pressing Congress to draft and pass legislation that would cut greenhouse gases by 80% of 1990 levels by 2050, threatening to use authority under the Clean Air Act if legislators don’t move fast enough or create strong enough provisions."A stand of mature trees is actually a net producer of CO 2 as the trees respire O 2 in - CO 2 out but they have stopped growing so do not 'fix' anywhere near as much carbon as they produce. This being the case - should we get together and report the National Parks authority to the EPA ? After all they are deliberately not logging these trees that are producing the pollutant CO 2.
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Post by savethesharks on Feb 23, 2009 4:11:08 GMT
Calmann writes "Why are these posts here, and not in the global warming section of this board? It seems like every year this happens. Kevin might need to nudge these folks back to their rightful spot again."
On the contrary, Calmann....if you look at the subject of the thread, it was established to...explore the lack of MEDIA reports of SOLAR CYCLE 24!
The AGW disinformation flow may be a tangent to you but to many of us, it shows DIRECT causation as to why the SC 24 No-Show is being suppressed in the news.
Your observation that "every year this happens" is because, every year, people figure out what's going on behind the scenes....and, every year, the silence--not unlike the silence of the sun as of late--is deafening!
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Post by leashl on Feb 23, 2009 23:26:30 GMT
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Post by Col 'NDX on Feb 24, 2009 6:11:07 GMT
Interesting topic. It probably does deserve to stay in the main solar cycle discussion area, but as agw/climate change et al usually creep into these types of threads, we'll keep here for time being. Don't tell Kev, but I might move it back
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Post by neilhamp on Feb 24, 2009 7:44:50 GMT
Great thread. This is a once a 100 year event we are witnessing on the sun If I have kept the count correctly so far only two "low sun activity" news items have been found.
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