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Post by sigurdur on Aug 20, 2009 18:52:20 GMT
Have there been any papers published with the correlation between temp and magnetism?
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Post by msphar on Aug 21, 2009 9:24:15 GMT
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Post by colderinalaska on Aug 22, 2009 17:04:13 GMT
I wonder what will change the surface temperatures more? This solar minimum or this el nino.
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Post by kielbasa on Aug 23, 2009 1:43:16 GMT
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Post by kielbasa on Sept 14, 2009 19:28:33 GMT
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Post by neilhamp on Sept 22, 2009 12:23:06 GMT
Hmm! Up to 200 dead walruses have been spotted on the shore of Chukchi Sea on Alaska's northwest coast. This was headline news and climate change was blamed.
Severe cold weather that has gripped central and southern Argentina for two weeks. It has already killed about 40 people, yet our media friends do not seem to have noticed.
According to Argentinean media, "a wave of polar frost" came to Argentina last week and caused "a sensational drop in the temperature to minus 16 degrees Celsius." The average winter temperature in Argentina is about 10 degrees Celsius, ranging from 20 C in the north to 1 C in the south.
Compounding the cold, several southern regions saw heavy snowfalls, including in the south of Buenos Aires province, where there was 40 centimeters of snow for the first time in 50 years.
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Post by kielbasa on Oct 8, 2009 15:36:03 GMT
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Post by norman on Oct 11, 2009 15:58:31 GMT
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Post by kiwistonewall on Oct 13, 2009 8:03:47 GMT
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Post by latecommer on Oct 13, 2009 19:23:02 GMT
I can easily explain the cold weather in Argentina....it is the Gore effect. He is scheduled to speak at yet another global warming convention, I believe this comming week,...so in accordance with the weather god's displeasure and to further show how pis**d they are at his hubris ( with claims of human causation) they are planning another unseasonable blizzard to greet him
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Post by kiwistonewall on Oct 19, 2009 11:22:44 GMT
Cosmic pattern to UK tree growth "Every 11 years or so, the Sun becomes more active, producing a peak of sunspots. These sunspots carry a magnetic field that blocks and slows the path of energetic particles. When the researchers looked at their data, they found that tree growth was highest during periods of low sunspot activity, when most cosmic rays reached Earth." news.bbc.co.uk/earth/hi/earth_news/newsid_8311000/8311373.stmAs we've been saying.... And the BBC denies bias: www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/richardblack/Don't we all? ;D
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Post by trbixler on Oct 31, 2009 13:44:58 GMT
Interesting read on cycle 24. Suggests that it will be a very low cycle (surprise). Hathaway admits he totally missed the mark, at least he is honest and can explain his thinking on the subject. Solar science appears quite different than climate 'science'. www.earthfiles.com/news.php?ID=1635&category=Science
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Post by trbixler on Nov 11, 2009 15:21:19 GMT
"World getting cooler, not warmer, insists Bellamy" “The argument [for man-made global warming] is going downhill. Climate change is a completely natural thing. It is based on the sun, and at the moment we are into the 24th sun cycle and there has been no sunspots for two years. The last time that happened, the Thames froze over.” 30 years of cool www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2009/1111/1224258552055.html
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Post by itsthesunstupid on Nov 12, 2009 2:01:25 GMT
"World getting cooler, not warmer, insists Bellamy" “The argument [for man-made global warming] is going downhill. Climate change is a completely natural thing. It is based on the sun, and at the moment we are into the 24th sun cycle and there has been no sunspots for two years. The last time that happened, the Thames froze over.” 30 years of cool www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2009/1111/1224258552055.htmlI thought the following from the article was precious: He has been criticised repeatedly by the scientific community for his views. Prof William Reville, who writes in this newspaper, said changes in the sun had affected global temperatures in the past, but the correlation between the sun and climate ended in the 1970s while global warming continued.The sad thing is that this has become a common argument in the AGW community - The sun only has impact on cooling, not heating. Though this quote was particularly ludicrous in claiming that the sun stopped affecting climate at all in the '70's forward!
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Post by glc on Nov 12, 2009 11:24:26 GMT
The sad thing is that this has become a common argument in the AGW community - The sun only has impact on cooling, not heating. Though this quote was particularly ludicrous in claiming that the sun stopped affecting climate at all in the '70's forward!
It didn't say that the sun stopped affecting climate. It said that the correlation (such as it was) broke down in the 1970s. For example, the L&F-C correlation between temperature and sunspot cycle. If this correlation had held we would be about 1 deg cooler than we actually are.
Your GCR correlations don't stack up either. You claim constant GCR means that temperatures continue to rise (as in the late 20th century) but then claim falling GCR is responsible for a drop in temperatures which PRECEDED the increase in GCR.
You are trying deperately to hang on to the Svensmark theory presumably because all the others have bit the dust. The 2007/08 La Nina helped a bit but that's now gone and global temperatures are beginning to rise again - despite the huge increase in GCR count.
Update: I might be mixing you up with someone else so I don't necessarily mean "your correlations".
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