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Post by slh1234 on Oct 31, 2010 8:01:40 GMT
Lack of communication between both parties, sure. Where do men get info from, wherever it is available to them. Some sources would be other mens experiences, porn varieties and other women. Probably not your grandmother, though. lol Here's one for you.. DO NOT take it personally.. though. All fishermen are liars, just between me and you, I not so sure about you. Hey Joe, everytime you tell that fish story that fish just keeps getting bigger. Truthfully 80% was disheartening. I think communication may still be a problem between you and me in some places because there are parts of your post I'm not sure I'm following, but that's okay. I need you to explain to me where you were going with the fisherman analogy, though. I do think your thoughts about where men get their information about women from is very much incomplete, though. But I think that seems to be a stereotype that many women apply to men. Just as an example (it'll have to be me - I'm the only one I know first hand): I don't think I've ever taken another man's account of his experiences seriously. There are a number of reasons for that including the context of conversations (They are usually wisecracking), and the fact that I don't even find a serious conversation about sex to be a comfortable conversation with another man. Before I was old enough to really have any personal experiences, the beginning of what I know came from my mother. That's not a joke ... what other woman would have talked to me about sex at that time? It may not sound romantic, but growing up on the farm, there were many opportunities where some aspects of sex needed to be explained pretty early in life. But that was just the beginning. Mostly, what I have learned is from the woman I've been married to for 25 years now. So I will not say I know about women, but rather that I think I know about a particular woman very well. I see people as individuals more than anything else. There are places where I hear someone (usually a woman, or someone doing a very good job of pretending to be a woman) that may make me wonder if my wife finds something enjoyable, but I'm going to ask her rather than assuming she does. Sometimes, the answer may change depending on the level of passion in the moment, but I'll let her express that to me rather than assuming. One other way I learn is just with experience and observation - sometimes just noticing, and sometimes as a result of something not even related to sex. As an example, my wife broke her foot a number of years ago, and it was painful for some time afterwards. One way I tried to help was by learning to massage her feet while she was healing. I always want to do everything I do very well, so I had someone teach me to do foot massages. I found that she enjoyed it beyond just any theraputic value, and so I continued the practice just as a way to do something nice for her and remind her that I appreciate her. Interestingly, I find that this sometimes puts her "in the mood." I'm glad it does, but that's not my primary reason for continuing to give her massages - that's just for her. This may come as a surprise to you, but honestly, I find it more enjoyable for her to have an orgasm than for me to. Seriously, I try to extend it as long as possible just because I like her enjoyment of sex. Her enjoyment makes me enjoy sex much more, so her orgasms excite me much more than just having an orgasm myself. I've found it to be a cooperative effort for her to build to orgasm, and I can spoil it all if I don't cooperate at the right moments. Of course, some sessions are a little different since both of us like some varieties of activities ... These types of things are not learned from porn or from conversations with other men. Actually, I've never discussed it with another man because it's not even in the realm of things I am interested in discussing with them. Since I don't discuss it with men I don't know how many other men are similar to me in what I expressed that I enjoy, but I have to think I'm not that unusual (I'm seldom unusual in anything). So back to women faking orgasms: I think a woman could fake the sounds of her orgasm easily enough, but I wonder if other patterns of muscle contractions are really fakable ... They may be, but it seems that a woman would have to have very good control of some very deep muscles to do that voluntarily and on demand, and would have to be a VERY good actor to make it convincing. Then again, maybe those aren't consistent with all women, but it seems that a man should wonder about that. But the statistic: 80% would be disheartening, but I'm not even sure in what's been laid out thus far what that statistic means. Does it mean that 80% say they have faked an orgasm at least once? Or do they fake an orgasm regularly? most of the time? or is it that they can't have an orgasm at all? Depending on the answer(s) to that, then we have questions of why. Is it that they have never learned to have an orgasm (and if so, why?) If this is it, then did they fake because they were embarassed about this and faking was easier than asking their partner to work with them to learn how? Is it because they felt pressured by time and just wanted to get it over with? Is it because they are gold-digging and really aren't attracted to the guy? (There is a story behind this last one, so don't shoot me without hearing it). and I'm sure there are many reasons I haven't thought of ... The series of questions laid out are examples of what I mean about not knowing what the statistic means. It actually even goes deeper than that because I don't even know if the statistic was valid in the first place, but I'm willing to discuss it as if it is.
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Post by csspider57 on Oct 31, 2010 14:06:15 GMT
You weren't supposed to take the fishing comment personally remember. I used to live with an Irish, dyed in the wool fisherman. (no he wasn't a redhead lol)
I am glad you have questions or are questioning this though. But myself am way too involved in my little spaceweather hobby to get so involved with this.
With out becoming too graphic and what I do best is oversimplify, think about this.
Female appendage is located exteriorly, base is interior. You either have direct stimulation (exterior) or indirect stimulation (interior). Visualize yourself only receiving indirect stimulation. Might build you up some and bring a good feeling but doesn't trip the lights fandango.
Which then brings us back to the big/small complex. Which only is part of the indirect method of stimulation.
Happy Halloween
the spiderwoman has left the room.
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Post by slh1234 on Oct 31, 2010 16:09:33 GMT
Ah ... THAT explanation a lot earlier would have saved me a lot of typing . Referring back to your first post, I now think I got what you're talking about. It seems like there may be different degrees of internal vs. external stimulation that different women like or need, though - just an observation, I'm not a woman. (And I got the fisherman comment now - I wasn't taking it personally, I just didn't make any connection when I read that last night.)
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Post by csspider57 on Oct 31, 2010 16:45:41 GMT
So.. the next time I order a beer at the bar.. I can say to the bartender, "hey, put alittle head on that for me, huh?"
Back to you Maggie. lol
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Post by csspider57 on Oct 31, 2010 20:00:04 GMT
Lack of communication between both parties, sure. Where do men get info from, wherever it is available to them. Some sources would be other mens experiences, porn varieties and other women. Probably not your grandmother, though. lol Truthfully 80% was disheartening. slh1234 >So back to women faking orgasms: I think a woman could fake the sounds of her orgasm easily enough, but I wonder if other patterns of muscle contractions are really fakable ... They may be, but it seems that a woman would have to have very good control of some very deep muscles to do that voluntarily and on demand, and would have to be a VERY good actor to make it convincing. Then again, maybe those aren't consistent with all women, but it seems that a man should wonder about that.
But the statistic: 80% would be disheartening..< ah..Houston.. Deeper muscles are quite natural, call it a push out and perhaps you know that during the birthing process a woman is asked to PUSH. Even before the birth of a child, exercise of those muscles may be encouraged.
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Post by slh1234 on Oct 31, 2010 21:05:49 GMT
ah..Houston.. Deeper muscles are quite natural, call it a push out and perhaps you know that during the birthing process a woman is asked to PUSH. Even before the birth of a child, exercise of those muscles may be encouraged. Squeezing seems natural enough, yes. Is it controllable to the point to voluntarily produce the twitching? Twitching is not an exact description, but is the best word I can think of to describe it.
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Post by csspider57 on Oct 31, 2010 21:48:16 GMT
ah..Houston.. Deeper muscles are quite natural, call it a push out and perhaps you know that during the birthing process a woman is asked to PUSH. Even before the birth of a child, exercise of those muscles may be encouraged. Squeezing seems natural enough, yes. Is it controllable to the point to voluntarily produce the twitching? Twitching is not an exact description, but is the best word I can think of to describe it. Ah.. two different muscle groups here. Squeeze is entry muscle, push is from deeper muscle group. From Wesbster dictionary ..small, sensitive, erectile organ.. Now back to; www.agu.org/meetings/fm09/lectures/lecture_videos/U34A.shtml
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Post by csspider57 on Nov 1, 2010 1:48:42 GMT
Hey Maggie, can you do a "Why and When would Fake," scenario. We could include the how to detect the fake.
Rolling Stones, "Let it Bleed." Starting to feel like that bladed junkie nurse in the song but without the blade. huh go figure. But the song well and "you can lean on me."
Got some serious issues with Neptune and Uranus. Those two magnetic dipoles should be kept under close watch. Those two should react to this minimum period with much more ah..where did I put that..
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Post by scpg02 on Nov 1, 2010 3:11:19 GMT
Hey Maggie, can you do a "Why and When would Fake," scenario. We could include the how to detect the fake. I wouldn't even know where to start. It is just beyond me.
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Post by farkstick on Nov 1, 2010 16:36:34 GMT
I've been studying women my entire life. I've been studying the Sun for about... two years now? I probably understand the Sun better.
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Post by scpg02 on Nov 1, 2010 21:15:35 GMT
I've been studying women my entire life. I've been studying the Sun for about... two years now? I probably understand the Sun better. no doubt.
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Post by scpg02 on Nov 1, 2010 21:16:38 GMT
Women Don't Care About Bad SexOct 26th 2010 By Jeremy Taylor Many women who report sexual-performance problems aren't particularly worried about them. In various studies attempting to rate sexual satisfaction, between one-third and one-half of females report sexual dysfunction. However, only about 10 percent are concerned by it. In general, women are more likely to report sexual problems than men, and their problems tend to be with desire, rather than with plumbing issues. One theory as to why so many women will brush off bad sex is because they still value the intimacy of sex, even if the experience itself isn't as pleasurable as they feel it should be. In other words, a post-coital snuggle can make up for all sorts of shortcomings. www.asylum.com/2010/10/26/women-dont-care-about-bad-sex/
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Post by scpg02 on Nov 1, 2010 21:18:07 GMT
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Post by slh1234 on Nov 2, 2010 2:52:04 GMT
Back to the lighter side An engineer was walking along the sidewalk on his way home from work when his colleague rode up beside him on a shiny new motorcycle. The second engineer revved his engine a couple of times, popped the bike up on the kickstand, jumped off, removed his helmet and smiled. "Cool bike, dude!" the first engineer said. "Where'd you get it?" "You won't believe this," the second engineer began. "But the other day, I was walking along right about here when this beautiful young woman rode up on this bike. She jumped off, took off all her clothes and dropped them on the ground, then said, 'Take what you want.'" "Good choice," the first engineer said nodding his approval. "The clothes probably wouldn't have fit you anyway."
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Post by byz on Nov 2, 2010 8:14:55 GMT
NORTHERN CALIFORNIA WOMEN have fire & ice in our blood
Are you sure they are not illegal immigrants from Iceland ;D
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