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Post by icefisher on Jul 6, 2013 4:24:59 GMT
Numno you need to learn to distinguish between the credentials of an advocate and the credibility of his opinion. If as you seem to hold as true were true; there would be no need whatsoever for an audit profession. I too thought you had painted yourself in the corner, by your own words, and without any prompting. ?? what corner are you referring to?
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Post by nautonnier on Jul 6, 2013 8:44:41 GMT
Hi Numerouno! It's must be those pesky insurance comp.s over there trying to drive up premiums? It is obviously not the weather just that folk have got too darn clever with this 'moving to places where floods/wildfires/tornadoes/hurricanes/heatwaves/Snowstorms/droughts occur'? Funny you should provide that list Graywolf. The numbers and extent of all of the "floods/wildfires/tornadoes/hurricanes/heatwaves/Snowstorms/droughts" have reduced in many cases to record lows. You would think from the reporting that the entire USA was in a heatwave - but the majority of the USA has been below normal temperatures and wetter than normal. The number and extent of floods and droughts is low, there has been a tornado 'drought', the USA is currently in the longest period since hurricane records began without a landfalling Cat 3 or higher hurricane. You should not be so easily led by the excitable media who have to find things to report and fill the new 24 hour news cycle.
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Post by numerouno on Jul 6, 2013 10:10:38 GMT
Hi Numerouno! It's must be those pesky insurance comp.s over there trying to drive up premiums? It is obviously not the weather just that folk have got too darn clever with this 'moving to places where floods/wildfires/tornadoes/hurricanes/heatwaves/Snowstorms/droughts occur'? Hello Graywodf! Yes, and in any case, it would be nothing new under the Sun as people had to spend money for repairing the damages of disasters already in the Little Ice Age and the 1930s.
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Post by numerouno on Jul 6, 2013 10:17:40 GMT
I should personally think the excess energy goes to the north to melt the ice, so there will be less tornadoes in the North Atlantic. That is of course totally my feeling about it. The actual change has been so rapid the science simply has not been able to keep up with it.
When Nautonnier says "oh, but it's only one half a continent", yes I for one still have a somewhat working pair of eyes. The other half has been record hot in places, the other half wet and cool. That is in fact the pattern we will see. Just stay out of the extremes, avoid any large continents in general and you will be fine.
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Post by graywolf on Jul 6, 2013 14:31:42 GMT
Agree with this Numerouno! this time last year the 'stuck patterns' had us squarely in it's sights and we were awaiting our second '1 in a hundred years' deluge......28c and San Miguel straight from the fridge this time around.....I know which i prefer!
The WMO report of July 3rd paints large the issues from 01' to 2010 so maybe folk need have a read and get up to speed with the N.I.M.B.Y. stuff? George Harrison might have thought he could know the world without leaving his home but I guess some folk find that quite difficult without a 'Maharishihe' of their own?
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Post by icefisher on Jul 6, 2013 23:45:28 GMT
I should personally think the excess energy goes to the north to melt the ice, so there will be less tornadoes in the North Atlantic. That is of course totally my feeling about it. The actual change has been so rapid the science simply has not been able to keep up with it. When Nautonnier says "oh, but it's only one half a continent", yes I for one still have a somewhat working pair of eyes. The other half has been record hot in places, the other half wet and cool. That is in fact the pattern we will see. Just stay out of the extremes, avoid any large continents in general and you will be fine. We were talking about the corner you painted yourself into Numno! You were going to give me your perspective from across the paint field! What happened?
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Post by trbixler on Jul 7, 2013 15:30:16 GMT
So far cold here in Marina CA. Inland OK. link
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Post by numerouno on Jul 7, 2013 18:26:22 GMT
June 2013 climate report for Tucson Headlines HOTTEST June on recordFirst month on record that each day recorded triple digit highs 6th longest streak on record for consecutive days with triple digit highs (30 days) 5th warmest daily June low on record 7th warmest month on record 8th warmest and 29th driest first half of year on record Warmest March thru June period on record
www.wrh.noaa.gov/twc/climate/monthly/jun13.php
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Post by nonentropic on Jul 7, 2013 19:26:43 GMT
found some more records broken only 700,000 to go you will be busy
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Post by numerouno on Jul 7, 2013 19:55:57 GMT
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Post by nonentropic on Jul 7, 2013 20:13:34 GMT
interestingly Australia has been quite cold ask the people who live there not the subsidy junkies.
even the alarmist new colour for temperature on the map is a BS story the question of contour selection is purely about what the mapping is trying to convey.
in that specific case alarm and it came with the required press release yes a deeply scientific organization has a mouthpiece run by a spin doctor.
unprecedented is a word based on lies without a clear description of the constraints its a lie. to assert that an event is unprecedented without constraint is simply impossible chatter from a spin doctor to wobble the emotions of the masses.
you are under the spell and unlikely to be persuaded otherwise just as the masses were led to there deaths by Lenin, Stalin and many more.
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Post by numerouno on Jul 7, 2013 20:23:12 GMT
The planet has warmed faster since the turn of the century than ever recorded, almost doubling the pace of sea-level increase and causing a 20-fold jump in heat-related deaths, the United Nations said.The decade through 2010 was the warmest for both hemispheres and for land and sea, the UN’s World Meteorological Organisation said Wednesday in an e-mailed report examining climate trends for the beginning of the millennium. Almost 94 per cent of countries logged their warmest 10 years on record, it said. Read more: www.smh.com.au/environment/climate-change/globe-warms-at-unprecedented-rate-wmo-report-says-20130703-2pchd.html#ixzz2YORVhVjo
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Post by nonentropic on Jul 7, 2013 20:27:56 GMT
17 years no statistical temperature change, that from East Anglia Uni. No Spin yeh right!!!
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Post by numerouno on Jul 7, 2013 20:38:14 GMT
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Post by sigurdur on Jul 7, 2013 21:33:07 GMT
I think they only went back to 1950 or so? The rate of warming was faster in the early 20th century, but don't let facts get in the way.
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