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Post by stranger on Dec 28, 2010 3:02:12 GMT
Ahh - site filter. Which reminds me of several "major newspaper" comment filters that would allow black but not white in the comments section. We must be careful not to offend, you know.
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Post by Ratty on Dec 28, 2010 4:49:31 GMT
"Obviously we're having a fairly cool period, but there are certainly increased chances of above average temperatures from January," Mr thingyson said. I wonder did anyone ask the spokesperson WHY there would be increased chances of warm weather because it had been colder than normal?
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Post by numas on Dec 28, 2010 5:04:00 GMT
Melbourne: for 28th December:
Forecast High 25C, Actual 21.2C (and so it has been all the past week if my memory serves me correctly)
It is though the computer weather model has a 4C warm bias...
Update: Cloud cleared & late afternoon temp rose to 21.6, but is now falling again.
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Post by numas on Dec 28, 2010 10:10:58 GMT
Forecast for Melbourne tomorrow (29th) is 29C, That was also the forecast for the 29th Yesterday.
My Guess is it will be close to 25C.
Update tomorrow.
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Post by numas on Dec 30, 2010 10:20:29 GMT
Well, Yesterday did reach the forecast 29C, but today's Max was 2C below forecast
Tomorrow is forecast as 40C. (Hot Northerly Foehn wind)
Update tomorrow
Update: well, its 11:30am, Northerly blowing & 31C in Melbourne. Could still warm up though.
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Post by tobyglyn on Dec 31, 2010 6:56:18 GMT
39-40C in Melbourne now but expected to drop 15C late tonight. They were right!
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Post by sigurdur on Dec 31, 2010 13:15:02 GMT
Have to be right once in awhile don't ya think?
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Post by ZL4DH on Dec 31, 2010 13:28:17 GMT
Happy new year its already 2 1/2 hrs into the new year in New Zealand and i can fell the global warming coming on already 8degc outside and its still falling bloody cold for a summers night. have a good year every one im going to bed.
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Post by stranger on Jan 1, 2011 2:42:05 GMT
It's 3 1/2 hours until 2011, and the neighbors bought out a fireworks store. I am wrapped up in five terrified dogs and I will be doubly glad to see 2010 in the rear view mirrors.
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Post by trbixler on Jan 7, 2011 14:34:32 GMT
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Post by poitsplace on Jan 8, 2011 9:51:37 GMT
Heh, we're rapidly approaching a time when the "top" climate researchers will be tossed out on their collective asses...like the crap scientists that they are. The true believers of the green religion may never be convinced...but the scientists in hard sciences will understand that the hypothesis of dangerous anthropogenic global warming has been falsified.
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Post by socold on Jan 8, 2011 12:24:55 GMT
Funny how this news has been ignored in the MSM and by AGW experts. Yes I know its only a continent covered with ice. First demonstrate that it's unusual to go weeks below average. If it happens every year then your claim is baseless. Also the MSM has largely ignored the record warm temperatures over Canada and Greenland in the past month, in favor of record cold temperatures over the UK, US, etc. So you can't pretend the MSM are biased against reporting cold temperatures.
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Post by socold on Jan 8, 2011 12:26:09 GMT
Heh, we're rapidly approaching a time when the "top" climate researchers will be tossed out on their collective asses...like the crap scientists that they are. The true believers of the green religion may never be convinced...but the scientists in hard sciences will understand that the hypothesis of dangerous anthropogenic global warming has been falsified. Of course that presumes the floods in Australia and Pakistan earlier in this year, and the heat wave in Russia again earlier this year are not a consequence of climate change of the past 30 years.
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Post by AstroMet on Jan 8, 2011 12:35:18 GMT
Heh, we're rapidly approaching a time when the "top" climate researchers will be tossed out on their collective asses...like the crap scientists that they are. The true believers of the green religion may never be convinced...but the scientists in hard sciences will understand that the hypothesis of dangerous anthropogenic global warming has been falsified. Of course that presumes the floods in Australia and Pakistan earlier in this year, and the heat wave in Russia again earlier this year are not a consequence of climate change of the past 30 years. The climate is always "changing." Is it not?
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Post by socold on Jan 8, 2011 14:22:27 GMT
Of course that presumes the floods in Australia and Pakistan earlier in this year, and the heat wave in Russia again earlier this year are not a consequence of climate change of the past 30 years. The climate is always "changing." Is it not? Yes and as climate changes from one state to another does the likelihood of extreme events like floods and heatwaves not also change? Ie if we take the climate of 30 years ago, which among other things, had a cooler atmosphere containing slightly less water vapor and compare it to today's more warmer climate - which climate favored floods in Australia and heatwaves in Russia more? Or are they both the same? Ie is the frequency of floods in Australia and Pakistan not influenced by the climate at all. I find that rather unlikely. I would say the real question was how much, not whether, the change in climate of the past 30 years has altered the frequency of extreme events from region to region. You point out that climate is always changing. Sure, but not all climate changes are alike. For example if the climate cools down back to the 70s again we'll just return to the tried and tested 1970s climate with it's frequency and distribution of extreme events. But if we warm up even more we will begin to enter uncharted territory and will increasingly face extreme event patterns and frequencies in different regions that we haven't historically been accustomed to. This is the argument against knocking CO2 far above natural variation even in the face of not knowing precisely what will happen. If we just leave climate properties to move their own natural merry way (ie let CO2 naturally follow temperature, not be pushed gratuitously up by our emissions) we are more likely to just have the climate change up and down slightly within variations we are historically accustomed too. But if we push CO2 above natural variation we risk also changing climate above natural variation.
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