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Post by glennkoks on Aug 31, 2015 3:08:53 GMT
The advancement of many glaciers in Europe during the LIA is well documented. Not by tree rings or fudged data but by recorded history. We know for a fact that they advanced far enough to threaten villages so it certainly is not out of the realm of possibility that they can retreat in short order as well.
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Post by hrizzo on Aug 31, 2015 7:20:53 GMT
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Post by hrizzo on Sept 1, 2015 7:30:11 GMT
Long time no see hope all is well? Thanks, Charlie. All fairly well, yes. Old heart with some problems, for sure, but that is just time going on, of course. But with taking care of my two little grandchildren and having fun with Spain politics, my free moments for climate make me almost only a reader.
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Post by ebrainsh on Sept 4, 2015 20:11:55 GMT
Theodore, thank you for bringing this to my attention. This is a great learning opportunity. How cold do you think it will get? Maybe take the top 25 major cities worldwide and give us an example of summer/winter temps we may experience going into this minimum 2017-20, then 2029-2031, 2045-2050. Maybe I need to move to Florida or southern Texas .
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Post by ebrainsh on Sept 8, 2015 4:09:17 GMT
Come on guys! How bad is this projected minimum going to be?
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Post by nonentropic on Sept 8, 2015 5:27:53 GMT
Well ex the El Nino things are likely to fall 1C so that is quite strongly empirically tested.
The issue is, will the temperature be high enough on this side to stop this from being a fall.
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Post by nautonnier on Sept 8, 2015 14:23:31 GMT
Well ex the El Nino things are likely to fall 1C so that is quite strongly empirically tested. The issue is, will the temperature be high enough on this side to stop this from being a fall. Joe Bastardi is forecasting a significant drop after this 'El Nino' as he is also saying the AMO is going back negative.
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Post by nonentropic on Sept 8, 2015 18:49:14 GMT
He has actually put his position about CAGW or even AGW on the line. A lot more integrity than the feeding pigs on the warm side.
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Post by missouriboy on Sept 9, 2015 2:15:26 GMT
Joe Bastardi is forecasting a significant drop after this 'El Nino' as he is also saying the AMO is going back negative. Do you recall the Saturday Summary he made that claim? I would like to listen to it again and I have no clue what day it was. This may be the one you're looking for ... he lays out the step decline after the last 2 El Ninos. www.weatherbell.com/saturday-summary-august-1-2015
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Post by sigurdur on Sept 9, 2015 4:25:37 GMT
I noted the article stated the glaciers were 4,000 years old. Which means they have been there since the H climate optimum. Now I am curious and will try and find the USGS paper. Something isn't.matching here.
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Post by douglavers on Sept 9, 2015 6:08:02 GMT
I think Bastardi was saying that EL Ninos are actually cooling events.
Makes sense actually: if heat needs to be removed from a system, you "concentrate" the heat in one place.
Convection/evaporation/radiation then disperse it.
Stefan's Law in particular might work well with El Ninos.
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Post by missouriboy on Sept 9, 2015 21:41:10 GMT
This also does not look much like a hockey stick!
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Post by sigurdur on Sept 9, 2015 22:42:22 GMT
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Post by AstroMet on Oct 23, 2015 23:42:37 GMT
TRENDS TO GLOBAL COOLING 'Too Much, Even For Siberia?'by Theodore White, astrometeorologist.Sci For well over a decade I have been forecasting that global cooling would arrive officially in late 2017 and then become the new climate regime that will extend over the following 30+ years. We are now nearly only two years away from the start of my global climate change forecast for global cooling and the world has been showing various signs of that fact. Even as policymakers prepare to meet in Paris, France to hold a major United Nation's conference on 'man-made global warming,' - I continue to state - unequivocally - that there is no such thing as human caused global warming. It simply does not exist. It is impossible according to the laws of thermodynamics and physics. Human beings cannot alter the planetary climate of the Earth. Only the Sun can do that. Our Sun is the cause of climate changes throughout our solar system - and that includes the Earth. According to my climate forecast, the Sun is about to enter a kind of 'sleep mode,' where it's magnetic solar output and albedo modulation signals the arrival of the Sun's Grand Minimum. What is the direct result of a quiescent Sun? Global cooling. As for the coming winter 2015-2016 in the northern hemisphere: For much of the hemisphere, winter will see a slow start in various regions (not getting going until January and extending through March 2016) while in others, like the northern steppes of Russia - the trends of the encroachment of global cooling is all but evident. Consider this, Just now, the snow has gotten off to an incredible start in Siberia. That is where reports this October show record snowfall that has shut down many areas of the city of Omsk. That is where over 40 centimeters of snow fell overnight October 22, 2015. And the result is that thousands of drivers have been stuck in traffic for hours on end after the furious snowstorm struck. Now, some people will say that is not at all uncommon for Siberia, but those living there say that it is the most heavy snowfall they have experienced arriving overnight in a decade. These abrupt winter storm weather events is what everyone can expect worldwide under the new climate regime of global cooling. It is right around the corner people and I urge all to prepare for the Sun's Grand Minimum and the deep freeze that will result. This mini ice age will be powerful and will seriously alter how we all live, work and play in the years and decades ahead. www.rt.com/news/319351-siberia-snowfall-omsk-record/
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Post by AstroMet on Dec 14, 2015 19:28:10 GMT
Theodore, thank you for bringing this to my attention. This is a great learning opportunity. How cold do you think it will get? Maybe take the top 25 major cities worldwide and give us an example of summer/winter temps we may experience going into this minimum 2017-20, then 2029-2031, 2045-2050. Maybe I need to move to Florida or southern Texas . You're welcome. As for how cold it will get, from my calculations, it looks like we have a 2.8 degree Celsius decline by the year by 2029-2030. It is going to get colder and colder during the 2020s and by the mid-2030s, we will already be within the mini-ice age. As global cooling begins in December 2017, we will have, according to my climate forecast, the next ENSO between 2019-2022, a moderate El Nino followed by a strong La Nina - the first in modern times under the new climate regime of global cooling.
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