|
|
Post by mondeoman on Nov 22, 2019 14:19:33 GMT
Good read!
|
|
|
|
Post by nautonnier on Nov 24, 2019 16:52:34 GMT
"Blundering around the www I stumbled on this readable article by Chris Boyd from Quora (which is a grabby site). Readers here might like to check thru these bullet points pertinent to a sceptic position and who knows make some suggestions/additions/comments. Word 2003 doc with original links preserved.
For easy read full text no links I have numbered the 27 bullet points
Why did you change your views on climate change?
By Chris Boyd
I was an anti-corporation, anti-oil, politically left person who was also regularly depressed and thoroughly freaked out about climate change since first reading about it in 1998.
So I jumped at the chance in 2015 to put my advertising creative skills to work on a voluntary project where I created a viral campaign concept to promote climate change and renewable energy. I spent almost a year developing the concept, using my spare time and money and doing vastly more reading on the subject than I had before, including many things about CO2.
Here are some of the conclusions I personally came to, slowly at first, then eventually all at once in the following few years after the project, and some salient points I read along the way:"There follows 27 well thought points on why anthropogenic CO2 cannot be the cause of global warmingwww.warwickhughes.com/blog/?p=6372Get some suitable beverage and have a read...
|
|
|
|
Post by nautonnier on Dec 8, 2019 12:54:53 GMT
|
|
|
|
Post by nautonnier on Dec 20, 2019 10:06:21 GMT
|
|
|
|
Post by nautonnier on Dec 21, 2019 10:07:39 GMT
|
|
|
|
Post by nautonnier on Dec 21, 2019 10:14:27 GMT
|
|
|
|
Post by missouriboy on Dec 22, 2019 20:17:54 GMT
|
|
|
|
Post by nautonnier on Dec 24, 2019 19:11:34 GMT
"Study: No Discernible Link From CO2 Forcing To Climate For 97% Of The Last 425 Million Years
By Kenneth Richard on 23. December 2019
For CO2 to be considered a driver of Earth’s temperatures, changes in CO2 that uni-directionally correlate with temperatures should not be an exceptional occurrence. Yet a causal link from CO2 radiative forcing to temperature changes could hypothetically be inferred for just 2.6% of the last 425 million years.
A detailed analysis (Davis, 2017) of temperature and CO2 proxies over the Phanerozoic Eon by environmenalist Dr. W. Jackson Davis finds that for 77.9% of the record there was a non-discernible correlation between CO2 and temperature.
On the occasion there was a correlation between CO2 and temperature, most (60%) of the correlation instances were negative. In other words, when a correlation could be discerned, temperatures fell as CO2 rose or CO2 fell as temperatures rose more often than CO2 and temperature rose and fell with a semblence of synchroni"notrickszone.com/2019/12/23/study-no-discernible-link-from-co2-forcing-to-climate-for-97-of-the-last-425-million-years/
|
|
|
|
Post by Ratty on Dec 24, 2019 22:27:09 GMT
"Study: No Discernible Link From CO2 Forcing To Climate For 97% Of The Last 425 Million Years
By Kenneth Richard on 23. December 2019
For CO2 to be considered a driver of Earth’s temperatures, changes in CO2 that uni-directionally correlate with temperatures should not be an exceptional occurrence. Yet a causal link from CO2 radiative forcing to temperature changes could hypothetically be inferred for just 2.6% of the last 425 million years.
A detailed analysis (Davis, 2017) of temperature and CO2 proxies over the Phanerozoic Eon by environmenalist Dr. W. Jackson Davis finds that for 77.9% of the record there was a non-discernible correlation between CO2 and temperature.
On the occasion there was a correlation between CO2 and temperature, most (60%) of the correlation instances were negative. In other words, when a correlation could be discerned, temperatures fell as CO2 rose or CO2 fell as temperatures rose more often than CO2 and temperature rose and fell with a semblence of synchroni"notrickszone.com/2019/12/23/study-no-discernible-link-from-co2-forcing-to-climate-for-97-of-the-last-425-million-years/ DeSmogBlog is slipping! Dr W. Jackson Davis doesn't have an entry. |
|
|
|
Post by nautonnier on Dec 30, 2019 18:41:58 GMT
That's awkward ..... "Scientists Document A DECLINE In Overall Greenhouse Effect Forcing From 1985-2014
CO2 concentrations rose from 345 ppm to 398 ppm in the 29 years from 1985 to 2014. Mainstream scientists sympathetic to the anthropogenic global warming (AGW) paradigm have nonetheless reported the overall greenhouse effect forcing has been flat to declining throughout this period.
1. Cess and Udelhofen, 2003 Due to the downward trend in cloud cover, absorbed shortwave radiation increased and the overall greenhouse effect’s forcing influence declined from 1985-1999. The authors consider these trends to be driven by natural variability." notrickszone.com/2019/12/30/scientists-document-a-decline-in-overall-greenhouse-effect-forcing-from-1985-2014/About that AGW/Climate hypothesis ....
"In general we look for a new law by the following process. First we guess it. Then we compute the consequences of the guess to see what would be implied if this law that we guessed is right. Then we compare the result of the computation to nature, with experiment or experience, compare it directly with observation, to see if it works. If it disagrees with experiment it is wrong. In that simple statement is the key to science. It does not make any difference how beautiful your guess is. It does not make any difference how smart you are, who made the guess, or what his name is – if it disagrees with experiment it is wrong. That is all there is to it. "Richard Feynman |
|
|
|
Post by nautonnier on Jan 6, 2020 11:41:19 GMT
"On the Apparent Relationship Between Total Solar Irradiance and the Atmospheric Temperature at 1 Bar on Three Terrestrial-type Bodies
Abstract
It has been discovered that there appears to exist a close relationship between relative differences in total solar irradiance and the atmospheric temperature, at a pressure of 1 bar, on all three terrestrial-type bodies which possess thick atmospheres. The apparent relationship is through the quaternary root of total solar irradiance at 1 bar, and applies to the planetary bodies Venus, Earth and Titan. The relationship is so close that the average surface atmospheric temperature of Earth can be easily calculated to within 1 Kelvin (0.5%) of the correct figure by the knowledge of only two numbers, neither of which are related to the Earth's atmosphere. These are; the atmospheric temperature in the Venusian atmosphere at 1 bar, and the top-of-atmosphere solar insolation of the two planets. A similar relationship in atmospheric temperatures is found to exist, through insolation differences alone, between the atmospheric temperatures at 1 bar of the planetary bodies Titan and Earth, and Venus and Titan. This relationship exists despite the widely varying atmospheric greenhouse gas content, and the widely varying albedos of the three planetary bodies. This result is consistent with previous research with regards to atmospheric temperatures and their relationship to the molar mass version of the ideal gas law, in that this work also points to a climate sensitivity to CO2-or to any other 'greenhouse' gas-which is close to or at zero. It is more confirmation that the main determinants of atmospheric temperatures in the regions of terrestrial planetary atmospheres which are >0.1 bar, is overwhelmingly the result of two factors; solar insolation and atmospheric pressure. There appears to be no measurable, or what may be better termed 'anomalous' warming input from a class of gases which have up until the present, been incorrectly labelled as 'greenhouse' gases."www.researchgate.net/publication/338393205_On_the_Apparent_Relationship_Between_Total_Solar_Irradiance_and_the_Atmospheric_Temperature_at_1_Bar_on_Three_Terrestrial-type_BodiesThis parallels the ICAN generation of wet and dry adiabatic lapse rates by just using the gas laws
|
|
|
|
Post by acidohm on Jan 6, 2020 16:55:40 GMT
|
|
|
|
Post by nautonnier on Jan 6, 2020 17:37:37 GMT
The problem is that clouds could: > cause cooling - as in Svensmark hypothesis of high energy cosmic rays creating showers of cloud condensation nuclei and therefore increasing albedo as more clouds form. > be a feedback from heating as in the Lindzen's 'Iris hypothesis' or Eisenbach thundershower hypothesis. Clouds are complex. It is only climate scientists that claim that clouds warm the surface most sunbathers have a different opinion. |
|
|
|
Post by acidohm on Jan 6, 2020 18:59:32 GMT
AND, they're impossible to model accurately. So, models suck 😉
|
|
|
|
Post by missouriboy on Jan 6, 2020 19:06:53 GMT
AND, they're impossible to model accurately. So, models suck 😉 Actually, it's the model ers and their audiences that suck.  |
|
