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Post by acidohm on Jun 8, 2018 17:55:47 GMT
So I had the lightening app up on my computer Tuesday afternoon when it seemed like Zeus himself sent a bolt right into my Mississippi Gulf house. Epic! A/C circuit boards, the microwave, all the TVs and my Onkyo amplifier, not to mention the cable box, fried in an instant. It set off the smoke detector, the burglar alarm and the dog, for about three minutes of utter chaos until I got things calmed down. Tripped most of the breakers, and dug a trench across the yard to the grinder pump power source. My surge detectors got smoked as well. Needless to say, I lost the app. Crazy what 1 million volts can do to 21st century electrical gear. Wow!! Alot of extra work from a millisecond event!!
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Post by acidohm on Jun 8, 2018 18:54:06 GMT
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Post by nautonnier on Jun 8, 2018 19:29:30 GMT
Get some in Try looking at Florida
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Post by glennkoks on Jun 8, 2018 20:30:28 GMT
Is the number of lighting strikes worldwide tracked yearly? It would be interesting to see if there has been an increase.
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Post by Ratty on Jun 8, 2018 23:49:38 GMT
So I had the lightening app up on my computer Tuesday afternoon when it seemed like Zeus himself sent a bolt right into my Mississippi Gulf house. Epic! A/C circuit boards, the microwave, all the TVs and my Onkyo amplifier, not to mention the cable box, fried in an instant. It set off the smoke detector, the burglar alarm and the dog, for about three minutes of utter chaos until I got things calmed down. Tripped most of the breakers, and dug a trench across the yard to the grinder pump power source. My surge detectors got smoked as well. Needless to say, I lost the app. Crazy what 1 million volts can do to 21st century electrical gear. What was the attractant, Fido? Why did it pick your place?
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Post by acidohm on Jun 9, 2018 5:36:39 GMT
Is the number of lighting strikes worldwide tracked yearly? It would be interesting to see if there has been an increase. I have struggled to find a database. Blitzortung do, but to access the whole dataset you need to buy and build one of they're lightning detectors, ie, be a full member. I have emailed requesting access but never heard back. People who do have access however have been giving 48 hr European totals/maps....and have been very excited about the quantity of strikes. The impression I get from watching lightningmaps.org and the above, plus frequent flooding and giant hailstones being posted on fb, is that this is a very active and violent season. Beyond usual. My father in Croatia was sending me videos as I watched the storm on lightning.org last night. I think when I speak to my bother in law, he will confirm that was an unusually violent storm. Certainly I've never seen anything like it there in 15 years, and I've seen quite a few in the trips ice made there. Missouriboy may also have something to add as he's currently in Split, however he was at the edge of the storm whereas my dad was VERY much centre of it.
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Post by acidohm on Jun 9, 2018 10:13:18 GMT
/ Slovenia has car parks full of cars with broken glass and damaged bodywork this morning. Not surprising with up to 11cm hail!! Imagine the forces required to keep this bad boy aloft and building in size!!
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Post by glennkoks on Jun 9, 2018 11:58:57 GMT
Is the number of lighting strikes worldwide tracked yearly? It would be interesting to see if there has been an increase. I have struggled to find a database. Blitzortung do, but to access the whole dataset you need to buy and build one of they're lightning detectors, ie, be a full member. I have emailed requesting access but never heard back. People who do have access however have been giving 48 hr European totals/maps....and have been very excited about the quantity of strikes. The impression I get from watching lightningmaps.org and the above, plus frequent flooding and giant hailstones being posted on fb, is that this is a very active and violent season. Beyond usual. My father in Croatia was sending me videos as I watched the storm on lightning.org last night. I think when I speak to my bother in law, he will confirm that was an unusually violent storm. Certainly I've never seen anything like it there in 15 years, and I've seen quite a few in the trips ice made there. Missouriboy may also have something to add as he's currently in Split, however he was at the edge of the storm whereas my dad was VERY much centre of it. Local weather channels have been reporting the number of lighting flashes (not sure if the term strike is appropriate) for years now so somewhere there should be database in existence with that information. If not globally then there should be decent regional data out there. Lightning contains a lot of energy. And if we were to see an increase in the number of lightning bolts worldwide as we dip into this solar minimum it would interesting to theorize just where this increase in energy is coming from? I am not a physicist, but cosmic rays are energy are they not? If more of these cosmic rays are reaching earth because of a decrease in solar wind that energy has to go somewhere i.e. cloud formation/lightning.
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Post by Ratty on Jun 9, 2018 13:06:07 GMT
[ Snip ] Lightning contains a lot of energy. And if we were to see an increase in the number of lightning bolts worldwide as we dip into this solar minimum it would interesting to theorize just where this increase in energy is coming from? I am not a physicist, but cosmic rays are energy are they not? If more of these cosmic rays are reaching earth because of a decrease in solar wind that energy has to go somewhere i.e. cloud formation/lightning. An eminently reasonable hypothesis, Glenn. PS: Did you have any bother from Alberto?
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Post by glennkoks on Jun 9, 2018 14:00:38 GMT
[ Snip ] Lightning contains a lot of energy. And if we were to see an increase in the number of lightning bolts worldwide as we dip into this solar minimum it would interesting to theorize just where this increase in energy is coming from? I am not a physicist, but cosmic rays are energy are they not? If more of these cosmic rays are reaching earth because of a decrease in solar wind that energy has to go somewhere i.e. cloud formation/lightning. An eminently reasonable hypothesis, Glenn. PS: Did you have any bother from Alberto? We were on the dry side of Alberto so unfortunately we did not even get some much needed rain. And according to Joe Bastardi over at weatherbell.com it may be a suppressed tropical season so we may not get much in the way of rain from the tropics this year in my neck of the woods. But after getting 51.5 inches last year during Harvey I will not complain...
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Post by Ratty on Jun 9, 2018 16:19:38 GMT
An eminently reasonable hypothesis, Glenn. PS: Did you have any bother from Alberto? We were on the dry side of Alberto so unfortunately we did not even get some much needed rain. And according to Joe Bastardi over at weatherbell.com it may be a suppressed tropical season so we may not get much in the way of rain from the tropics this year in my neck of the woods. But after getting 51.5 inches last year during Harvey I will not complain... Reminds me of a line from a famous Australian poem, My Country: I love a sunburnt country, A land of sweeping plains, Of ragged mountain ranges, Of droughts and flooding rains. I love her far horizons, I love her jewel-sea, Her beauty and her terror The wide brown land for me!
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Post by phydeaux2363 on Jun 9, 2018 18:21:18 GMT
So I had the lightening app up on my computer Tuesday afternoon when it seemed like Zeus himself sent a bolt right into my Mississippi Gulf house. Epic! A/C circuit boards, the microwave, all the TVs and my Onkyo amplifier, not to mention the cable box, fried in an instant. It set off the smoke detector, the burglar alarm and the dog, for about three minutes of utter chaos until I got things calmed down. Tripped most of the breakers, and dug a trench across the yard to the grinder pump power source. My surge detectors got smoked as well. Needless to say, I lost the app. Crazy what 1 million volts can do to 21st century electrical gear. What was the attractant, Fido? Why did it pick your place? Hard to say, Mr. Ratty. in the same event a pump on a gunnite truck redoing my neighbors pool got blown up as well.
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Post by phydeaux2363 on Jun 9, 2018 18:29:26 GMT
Talking about lightening reminds me of an old golf buddy of mine. He was having a bad round and was in serious danger of having to pony up a tidy sum on the Calcutta when a thunder storm interrupted the round. As the lightening flashed around us, he grabbed a 2 iron from his bag, walked to the middle of the fairway and lifted the club over his head, the metal blade pointed at the dark clouds. We all yelled, "Jimmy, what the hell are you doing? You're going to get yourself killed!" Jimmy replied, "don't be silly. I'm perfectly fine. Even God can't hit a 2 iron."
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Post by acidohm on Jun 10, 2018 6:02:32 GMT
I have struggled to find a database. Blitzortung do, but to access the whole dataset you need to buy and build one of they're lightning detectors, ie, be a full member. I have emailed requesting access but never heard back. People who do have access however have been giving 48 hr European totals/maps....and have been very excited about the quantity of strikes. The impression I get from watching lightningmaps.org and the above, plus frequent flooding and giant hailstones being posted on fb, is that this is a very active and violent season. Beyond usual. My father in Croatia was sending me videos as I watched the storm on lightning.org last night. I think when I speak to my bother in law, he will confirm that was an unusually violent storm. Certainly I've never seen anything like it there in 15 years, and I've seen quite a few in the trips ice made there. Missouriboy may also have something to add as he's currently in Split, however he was at the edge of the storm whereas my dad was VERY much centre of it. Local weather channels have been reporting the number of lighting flashes (not sure if the term strike is appropriate) for years now so somewhere there should be database in existence with that information. If not globally then there should be decent regional data out there. Lightning contains a lot of energy. And if we were to see an increase in the number of lightning bolts worldwide as we dip into this solar minimum it would interesting to theorize just where this increase in energy is coming from? I am not a physicist, but cosmic rays are energy are they not? If more of these cosmic rays are reaching earth because of a decrease in solar wind that energy has to go somewhere i.e. cloud formation/lightning. A few points to bear in mind. Firstly, as well as lightning Europe is seeing flooding, ie large amounts of precipitation and secondly, very large hailstones. The size of the clouds and the convection within it must have increased as well as the distribution. Usually, I believe, this would be a function of humidity, heat for convection and/or temp difference. In recent weeks the jetstream has been taking a bit of a holiday and looped up over the UK. Generally, the pressure system setup has been described by those who study the historical arrangements as currently being pretty weird. This is what is known, I don't know much about cosmic rays other then the proposition they increase cloud cover. Perhaps with increased cloud cover were opening the door to our old friend latent heat? I do however see the lightning, rain and hail as a function of the cloud itself, make a cloud big enough, these things will follow.
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Post by acidohm on Jun 10, 2018 7:01:11 GMT
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