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Post by missouriboy on Mar 1, 2021 7:16:27 GMT
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Post by sigurdur on Mar 1, 2021 7:46:19 GMT
Let's talk about sea level rise for the past 3,000 years. Chap finds spear head when scanning. Shouldn't that have been under meters of water?? |
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Post by nonentropic on Mar 1, 2021 9:00:09 GMT
probably was then
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Post by missouriboy on Mar 1, 2021 14:41:35 GMT
A bad fore-deck manuver by a long forgotten Celt with a nice spear.  |
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Post by missouriboy on Mar 8, 2021 2:55:03 GMT
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Post by missouriboy on Mar 10, 2021 5:03:48 GMT
Did the Old Archaeologists Construct a Fairy Tale that was off by Several Thousand Years? They and Michael Mann were perhaps related. From Gobekli Tepe which is believed to be 12,000-13,000 years old, together with a largely unexcavated companion site believed to be older, to submerged cities in the Black Sea and Eastern Mediterranean coast, and even Britain, the timeline of advanced civilization is being pushed back way beyond what has been claimed ... beyond the Mesolithic and the supposed exit from the Younger Dryas. Did a comet set us back? And it then took a few thousand years before the survivors re-established anything more than wandering bands. Perhaps I really should read Forbidden Archaeology, but the disected roots of "forbidden" sound so much like "for biden".  There are several postings on this thread on Gobekli tepe and one on its companion site. The Black Sea and East Med CoastBritain |
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Post by nautonnier on Mar 15, 2021 17:00:28 GMT
"Boffins revisit the Antikythera Mechanism and assert it’s no longer Greek to them
New reconstruction based on more evidence finds ancient mechanical computer could track planets, moon, eclipses, even the seasons and stars
Academics from University College London and The Cyprus Institute assert that they’ve built the most accurate model of the Antikythera Mechanism, the one-of-a-kind ancient Greek machine made of meshed gears.
The Mechanism’s back story is worthy of myth: it was found in the year 1900, amidst a wreck thought to have gone down 2,000 years earlier. The Mechanism was initially thought to be just a lump of rock or wood. Later investigation yielded evidence of a geared wheel, an artefact of which very few survive from antiquity and mentioned only a few times in ancient literature. As technology improved and finer investigations of the artefact became possible, it was discovered to include meshed gears and to be capable of predicting the movement of planets and the sun.
In a new paper titled A Model of the Cosmos in the ancient Greek Antikythera Mechanism, the authors describe it as “a mechanical computer … that used ground-breaking technology to make astronomical predictions, by mechanizing astronomical cycles and theories.” They’re not alone in calling the device a computer: many consider it the world’s first such device.
But the paper asserts that previous analyses of the Mechanism’s functions did not attempt to reconstruct its functions with proper analysis of or deference to the many inscriptions it bears.
“No previous reconstruction has come close to matching the data,” they write."More Here> www.theregister.com/2021/03/15/new_antikythera_mechanism_analysis/And here>
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Post by missouriboy on Apr 7, 2021 0:09:18 GMT
Close to finished with this. Amazing how one small twist in the interpretation of evidence, can change the entire perception of history. Thus is dogma born. During the 1920s Belgian historian Henri Pirenne came to an astonishing conclusion: the ancient classical civilization, which Rome had established throughout Europe and the Mediterranean world, was not destroyed by the Barbarians who invaded the western provinces in the fifth century, it was destroyed by the Arabs, whose conquest of the Middle East and North Africa terminated Roman civilization in those regions and cut off Europe from any further trading and cultural contact with the East. According to Pirenne, it was only in the mid-seventh century that the characteristic features of classical life disappeared from Europe, after which time the continent began to develop its own distinctive and somewhat primitive medieval culture. Pirenne's findings, published posthumously in his Mohammed et Charlemagne (1937), were even then highly controversial, for by the late nineteenth century many historians were moving towards a quite different conclusion: namely that the Arabs were actually a civilizing force who rekindled the light of classical learning in Europe after it had been extinguished by the Goths, Vandals and Huns in the fifth century. And because Pirenne went so diametrically against the grain of this thinking, the reception of his new thesis tended to be hostile. Paper after paper published during the 1940s and '50s strove to refute him. The most definitive rebuttal however appeared in the early 1980s. This was Mohammed, Charlemagne and the Origins of Europe, by English archaeologists Richard Hodges and David Whitehouse. These, in common with Pirenne's earlier critics, argued that classical civilization was already dead in Europe by the time of the Arab conquests, and that the Arabs arrived on the scene as civilizers rather than destroyers. Hodges and Whitehouse claimed that the latest findings of archaeology fully supported this view, and their work was highly influential. So influential indeed that over the next three decades Pirenne and his thesis was progressively sidelined, so that recent years have seen the publication of dozens of titles in the English language alone which fail even to mention his name. In Mohammed and Charlemagne Revisited historian Emmet Scott reviews the evidence put forward by Hodges and Whitehouse, as well as the more recent findings of archaeology, and comes to a rather different conclusion. For him, the evidence shows that classical civilization was not dead in Europe at the start of the seventh century, but was actually experiencing something of a revival. Populations and towns were beginning to grow again for the first time since this second century - a development apparently attributable largely to the spread of Christianity. In addition, the real centres of classical civilization, in the Middle East, were experiencing an unprecedented Golden Age at the time, with cities larger and more prosperous than ever before. Excavation has shown that these were destroyed thoroughly and completely by the Arab conquests, with many never again reoccupied. And it was precisely then, says Scott, that Europe's classical culture also disappeared, with the abandonment of the undefended lowland villas and farms of the Roman period and a retreat to fortified hilltop settlements; the first medieval castles. For Scott, archaeology demonstrated that the Arabs did indeed blockade the Mediterranean through piracy and slave-raiding, precisely as Pirenne had claimed, and he argues that the disappearance of papyrus from Europe was an infallible proof of this. Whatever classical learning survived after this time, says Scott, was due almost entirely to the efforts of Christian monks. The Pirenne thesis has taken on a new significance in the post 9/11 world. Scott's take on the theory will certainly ignite further and perhaps heated debate. |
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Post by missouriboy on Apr 10, 2021 0:56:26 GMT
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Post by missouriboy on Apr 11, 2021 21:05:44 GMT
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Post by missouriboy on Apr 12, 2021 1:40:52 GMT
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Post by walnut on Apr 12, 2021 2:19:30 GMT
Possibly my favorite thread but I haven't checked it in a while. |
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Post by missouriboy on Apr 12, 2021 3:30:38 GMT
Possibly my favorite thread but I haven't checked it in a while. Yes, I like the Smithsonian. |
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Post by missouriboy on Apr 16, 2021 3:55:01 GMT
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Post by walnut on Apr 16, 2021 13:13:12 GMT
That's neat. But I was hoping for a prettier Nefertiti |
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