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Post by phydeaux2363 on Jul 29, 2020 14:45:38 GMT
www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2019014 This is a link to a New England Journal of Medicine report on a Brazilian study of the efficacy of HCQ as a COVID prophylactic. It was mentioned on Tucker Carlson's show last night by an MD skeptical of the use of HCQ. Looks like tjhey used 400mg twice a day, added Z-Pak, and report no salutatory results. BUT NOTE--NO ZINC in the regimen. Is there a study using zinc that will pass muster with the "double blind" is the only legit study crowd? If so, i haven't found it.
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Post by nautonnier on Jul 29, 2020 15:51:40 GMT
www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2019014 This is a link to a New England Journal of Medicine report on a Brazilian study of the efficacy of HCQ as a COVID prophylactic. It was mentioned on Tucker Carlson's show last night by an MD skeptical of the use of HCQ. Looks like tjhey used 400mg twice a day, added Z-Pak, and report no salutatory results. BUT NOTE--NO ZINC in the regimen. Is there a study using zinc that will pass muster with the "double blind" is the only legit study crowd? If so, i haven't found it. This again looks deliberate - started late - no zinc and double dose of HCQ. There are studies but the talking heads and the medical establishment rush to pick holes in them and they don't get published - for example the French studies that resulted in France making HCQ a standard treatment.
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Post by nautonnier on Jul 29, 2020 15:57:59 GMT
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Post by nautonnier on Jul 29, 2020 16:01:34 GMT
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Post by nautonnier on Jul 29, 2020 16:14:10 GMT
It is not HCQ as such although it is a cheap low risk generic ionophore that has the added advantage of reducing inflammation. Shuttling zinc into cells seems to work as a way of killing lots of viruses. It turbocharges the normal innate immune system by making sure there is sufficient intracellular zinc to stop viral replication. This seems to be the same for a wide variety of viruses - no wonder the vaccination people would be concerned.
You can use ginko biloba extract or even strong green tea to do the same thing as long as you are sufficient in zinc.
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Post by nautonnier on Jul 29, 2020 16:21:38 GMT
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Post by sigurdur on Jul 29, 2020 17:36:31 GMT
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Post by duwayne on Jul 29, 2020 18:20:27 GMT
There is a latish night show here with Laura Ingraham and she has been having many 'frontline' doctors on who have the same scathing views of the FDA/CDC/NIH - one of them has cured more than 600 patients with HCQ/Zinc/Azithromycin; so I have little doubt that it works. Anyone running or involved in a clinical trial that arbitrarily changes the regimen being tested to another one ( some have given 2 GRAMS of HCQ instead of 200mcg) should be summarily struck off, the entire long term aim of these trials is to save lives not to choose your preferred winning drug/vaccine. You would only have to strike off all the members of one team - and suddenly the trial governance would markedly improve. I still stick with my forecast that AFTER there is a vaccine - the medical community will suddenly all agree that HCQ/zinc/Azithromycin are an effective treatment. This is all political and has destroyed my trust in the medical community and doctors - I now treat them all as academic climate 'scientists'. Luckily my primary care physician also distrusts the rest of the medical community, research and the efficacy of some vaccines, so we get on well. Will your doctor write you a prescription for HCQ?
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Post by nautonnier on Jul 29, 2020 19:02:39 GMT
There is a latish night show here with Laura Ingraham and she has been having many 'frontline' doctors on who have the same scathing views of the FDA/CDC/NIH - one of them has cured more than 600 patients with HCQ/Zinc/Azithromycin; so I have little doubt that it works. Anyone running or involved in a clinical trial that arbitrarily changes the regimen being tested to another one ( some have given 2 GRAMS of HCQ instead of 200mcg) should be summarily struck off, the entire long term aim of these trials is to save lives not to choose your preferred winning drug/vaccine. You would only have to strike off all the members of one team - and suddenly the trial governance would markedly improve. I still stick with my forecast that AFTER there is a vaccine - the medical community will suddenly all agree that HCQ/zinc/Azithromycin are an effective treatment. This is all political and has destroyed my trust in the medical community and doctors - I now treat them all as academic climate 'scientists'. Luckily my primary care physician also distrusts the rest of the medical community, research and the efficacy of some vaccines, so we get on well. Will your doctor write you a prescription for HCQ? I haven't asked - I tend not to get sick. I have no prescriptions and haven't had for decades. I will see him in a month's time on a routine visit to stop my paperwork being put in store and ask him then. My expectation is that he may well say he would prescribe HCQ as the mechanism is relatively clear, but probably not wait until I am intubated. (BTW avoid ventilators as they are not really to help people with gunk filled lungs- instead have them treat you as a cystic fybrosis patient to drain the gunk out (bats hang upside down for a reason) and use 100% oxygen under pressure so what lung function there is can stop you getting hypoxic. )
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Post by nautonnier on Jul 29, 2020 19:25:09 GMT
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Post by nautonnier on Jul 30, 2020 8:56:55 GMT
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Post by nautonnier on Jul 30, 2020 9:02:34 GMT
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Post by nautonnier on Jul 30, 2020 9:20:23 GMT
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Post by nautonnier on Jul 30, 2020 9:54:47 GMT
Well UK seems to have got to zero by end of July at least
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Post by nautonnier on Jul 30, 2020 10:23:29 GMT
This is really worth a read... "LOCKDOWN LUNACY 3.0: It's over
By J.B. Handley
If you’re hoping the COVID-19 pandemic will go on forever, this post may disappoint you. And, I get it. We have gone frothing-at-the-mouth nuts over a slightly above-normal virulence virus, with a unique and obvious age-distribution pattern that should have made containment easy and panic completely unnecessary. And, if you’re living in the United States, like I am, you probably think my declaration that this pandemic is “over” to be somewhere between wishful thinking and incredibly premature, and I hear you, too, although forgive me if I’m not sure you’re the one thinking clearly, given some of the things I’ve recently read. I promise to support my assertion with data, and the wisdom of people far more expert than me who are having a harder time being heard in the present climate of…bats#@t crazy.
Have we lost our collective minds? Yes.
You may not be one of them. In fact, I’m guessing the people who actually take the time to read my blog posts are the few remaining who haven’t been subsumed by the panic, but can we agree that most have? Jeffrey A. Tucker of the American Institute for Economic Research put it best in his excellent essay on July 10 titled, When will the Madness End?:
“I’m a practicing psychiatrist who specializes in anxiety disorders, paranoid delusions, and irrational fear. I’ve been treating this in individuals as a specialist. It’s hard enough to contain these problems in normal times. What’s happening now is a spread of this serious medical condition to the whole population. It can happen with anything but here we see a primal fear of disease turning into mass panic. It seems almost deliberate. It is tragic. Once this starts, it could take years to repair the psychological damage.”
I’m 50 years old, and I’ve noticed that younger people seem particularly scared of COVID-19, they are the ones I typically see biking and hiking with masks on, and this survey really corroborated that point:"Much much more here:> jbhandleyblog.com/home/2020/7/27/lockdownlunacythree
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