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Post by gridley on Apr 22, 2021 12:30:37 GMT
The Lockdown Paradigm Is Collapsing A nice scientific look at things... which is therefore meaningless in public policy. "Well, we didn't do the lockdown *right*" will be the answer to any criticism - if there is an answer at all and the critic isn't simply cancelled. Take a look at gun control - almost every proposed measure has been tried somewhere. Failure of a measure, however, has no connection to that idea being abandoned. Assault weapons ban? Sure, we'll try that again! Magazine capacity limits? Gun-free zones? Yeah, those sound like great ideas! Its worth it if we save just one life, right? And, just like with gun control, the inherent problem that lockdowns are violations of the basic idea of freedom is really a feature.
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Post by missouriboy on Apr 22, 2021 13:31:28 GMT
The Lockdown Paradigm Is Collapsing A nice scientific look at things... which is therefore meaningless in public policy. "Well, we didn't do the lockdown *right*" will be the answer to any criticism - if there is an answer at all and the critic isn't simply cancelled. Take a look at gun control - almost every proposed measure has been tried somewhere. Failure of a measure, however, has no connection to that idea being abandoned. Assault weapons ban? Sure, we'll try that again! Magazine capacity limits? Gun-free zones? Yeah, those sound like great ideas! Its worth it if we save just one life, right? And, just like with gun control, the inherent problem that lockdowns are violations of the basic idea of freedom is really a feature. It is GDS ... and the weakest links are breaking. And the authoritarians do not miss a beat, and zero in on that part of the GDS crowd that curl up in a ball rather than going out in a blaze of glory. Sheep are only as safe as the shepperd and almost always end up on a plate.
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Post by blustnmtn on Apr 23, 2021 1:38:59 GMT
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Post by sigurdur on Apr 24, 2021 3:18:31 GMT
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Post by nautonnier on Apr 24, 2021 15:17:16 GMT
The Lockdown Paradigm Is Collapsing As best anyone can tell, the idea of locking down when faced with a new virus emerged in the US and the UK around 2005-2006. It started with a small group of fanatics who dissented from traditional public health. They posited that they could manage a virus by dictating people’s behavior: how closely they stood next to each other, where they travelled, what events they attended, where they sat and for how long. They pushed the idea of closures and restrictions, which they branded “nonpharmaceutical interventions” through “targeted layered containment.” What they proposed was medieval in practice but with a veneer of computer science and epidemiology. When the idea was first floated, it was greeted with ferocious opposition. Over time, the lockdown paradigm made progress, with funding from the Gates Foundation and more recruits from within academia and public health bureaucracies. There were journals and conferences. Guidelines at the national level started to warm to the idea of school and business closures and a more broad invocation of the quarantine power. It took 10 years but eventually the heresy became a quasi-orthodoxy. They occupied enough positions of power that they were able to try out their theory on a new pathogen that emerged 15 years after the idea of lockdown had been first floated, while traditional epidemiology came to be marginalized, gradually at first and then all at once. Kuhn explains how a new orthodoxy gradually replaces the old one: When, in the development of a natural science, an individual or group first produces a synthesis able to attract most of the next generation’s practitioners, the older schools gradually disappear. In part their disappearance is caused by their members’ conversion to the new paradigm. But there are always some men who cling to one or another of the older views, and they are simply read out of the profession, which thereafter ignores their work. The new paradigm implies a new and more rigid definition of the field. Those unwilling or unable accommodate their work to it must proceed in isolation or attach themselves to some other group. That’s a good description of how lockdown ideology triumphed. There are plenty of conspiracy theories out there concerning why the lockdowns happened. Many of them contain grains of truth. But we don’t need to take recourse to them to understand why it happened. It happened because the people who believed in them became dominant in the world of ideas, or at least prominent enough to override and banish traditional principles of public health. The lockdowns were driven primarily by lockdown ideology. The adherents to this strange new ideology grew to the point where they were able to push their agenda ahead of time-tested principles. It is a blessing of this ideology that it came with a built-in promise. They would achieve better disease outcomes than traditional public health practices, so they said. This promise will eventually be their undoing, for one simple reason: they have not worked. Kuhn writes that in the history of science, this is prelude to crisis due to “the persistent failure of the puzzles of normal science to come out as they should. Failure of existing rules is the prelude to a search for new ones.” Further: “The significance of crises is the indication they provide that an occasion for retooling has arrived.” Kuhn’s theory of scientific progress fits rather well with the rise and fall of lockdownism. They had a theory that converted many people away from traditional principles. That theory came with a test. The theory has failed the test – that much is becoming more obvious by the day. The silence of Fauci in Congressional hearings is telling. His willingness only to be interviewed by fawning mainstream media TV anchors is as well. Many of the other lockdowners that were public and preening one year ago have fallen silent, sending ever fewer tweets and content that is ever more surreptitious rather than certain. The crisis for the fake science of lockdownism may not be upon us now but it is coming. Kuhn speaks of the post-crisis period of science as a time for a new paradigm to emerge, first nascently and then becoming canonical over time. What will replace lockdown ideology? We can hope it will be the realization that the old principles of public health served us well, as did the legal and moral principles of human rights and restrictions on the powers of government. www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/lockdown-paradigm-collapsing?utm_campaign=&utm_content=Zerohedge%3A+The+Durden+Dispatch&utm_medium=email&utm_source=zh_newsletterThe lockdown idea also has to be implemented the correct way or it will never work. The CCP method was any infected family was literally locked (often bolted/welded) into their home and supplied by non-touch methods. This can work. The rest of the world method was everyone reduced their exposure to everyone else - this can never work as a family (bubble) or whatever send a scout out into the real world to bring the infection back then spend an extended period being infected by the scout in the closed down home. I think that there is real disappointment in NIH with the low Gain of Function achieved in Wuhan. FauXi wanted something with the infectivity of SARS-CoV-2 but with the IFR of SARS-CoV-1 a death rate of 14% instead of 0.14% - would have made everyone take notice a lot quicker. Initially, he thought that had happened but it was probably more due to the low zinc diet of the Chinese and vitamin D deficiencies. The collapses in the streets were almost certainly real as the infected person was hypoxic and went below survival level ( medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/hypoxia) Interestingly- every time I have been 'we are just checking your 'vital signs' in the last month hourly in many cases, the technician ALWAYS uses a www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/pulse-oximeter-what-it-measures-how-it-works-and-how-to-read-it/ar-BB13DOJY
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Post by nautonnier on Apr 24, 2021 16:02:14 GMT
it is interesting as that is what is going on in my head at the moment. I need to find a way to get the TMEM16F bystander cells and G protein-coupled receptors more active. Coffee? Rum? Whisk(e)y? Tequila? Quinine from tonic water? Balance of Nature fruit/veg extracts? Suggestions would be welcome
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Post by nautonnier on Apr 24, 2021 16:30:10 GMT
I think that the people of Pompeii were less foolish. Pliny the Younger would have been outraged. According to the Younger, the Older went in to help, but didn't make it out. www.eyewitnesstohistory.com/pompeii.htmif you ever get the chance to visit Naples (the real one in Italy) then you should really go to Pompeii it is amazing how 'modern' a lot of the city is. Shopping streets with sliding doors on shops, traffic calming humps with slots for the chariot wheels, etc etc. The other good thing to try in Naples is the best white knuckle ride in the world. Get into a Taxi in the centre of the city and say "The Airport I am in a hurry" the taxis use the tramways and there is something about accelerating to overtake past a tram directly toward another coming head-on toward the taxi...... All of the vehicles in Naples seem to be sold pre-dented. There are apparently no traffic rules - but you _can_ walk up to a divided highway and straight across and you will be avoided (just) take no notice of deceptive 'green men' on pedestrian stoplights though - stoplights do not have the meaning that you would expect. I had wandered from the 'conference hotel' and now could see where I wanted to be but it was the other side of a busy 8 lane divided highway. As I stood close to the edge of the road wondering how to get across - the cars my side pulled up so I walked into the traffic (other less stupid/more risk averse held back) I continued and walked straight across. It became my standard method. Even the Italian traffic police at the pedestrian crossings could not stop the traffic.
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Post by missouriboy on Apr 25, 2021 1:25:14 GMT
if you ever get the chance to visit Naples (the real one in Italy) then you should really go to Pompeii it is amazing how 'modern' a lot of the city is. Shopping streets with sliding doors on shops, traffic calming humps with slots for the chariot wheels, etc etc. The other good thing to try in Naples is the best white knuckle ride in the world. Get into a Taxi in the centre of the city and say "The Airport I am in a hurry" the taxis use the tramways and there is something about accelerating to overtake past a tram directly toward another coming head-on toward the taxi...... All of the vehicles in Naples seem to be sold pre-dented. There are apparently no traffic rules - but you _can_ walk up to a divided highway and straight across and you will be avoided (just) take no notice of deceptive 'green men' on pedestrian stoplights though - stoplights do not have the meaning that you would expect. I had wandered from the 'conference hotel' and now could see where I wanted to be but it was the other side of a busy 8 lane divided highway. As I stood close to the edge of the road wondering how to get across - the cars my side pulled up so I walked into the traffic (other less stupid/more risk averse held back) I continued and walked straight across. It became my standard method. Even the Italian traffic police at the pedestrian crossings could not stop the traffic. AND THAT is how Rome conquered their known world ... and then lost it.
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Post by missouriboy on Apr 25, 2021 1:38:33 GMT
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Post by Ratty on Apr 25, 2021 14:26:35 GMT
A friend asked me why we can't call COVID-19 the "China Flu" but we can call the mutations the South African, English, Indian and Brazilian variants.? What should I tell him??
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Post by missouriboy on Apr 25, 2021 14:57:04 GMT
A friend asked me why we can't call COVID-19 the "China Flu" but we can call the mutations the South African, English, Indian and Brazilian variants.? What should I tell him?? Slanted viewpoints are the realm of Democrats.
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Post by gridley on Apr 25, 2021 16:51:30 GMT
Pulse ox machines were large, expensive, poorly understood toys 25 years ago. They got smaller fast, cheaper a little more slowly, useful even more slowly, and have finally become fairly well understood. Well, the last statement is questionable, since now, like everything, low O2 sat is apparently used to diagnose COVID-19. I was in a restaurant and overheard someone who "worked in the healthcare industry" explain how he'd had COVID-19 *even though he listed the symptoms he'd had and none of them were part of the differential*. But he was *sure* it was COVID-19 because someone he knew had tested positive and then later he'd gotten sick "worse than any cold I'd ever had."
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Post by missouriboy on Apr 27, 2021 15:43:19 GMT
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Post by graywolf on Apr 28, 2021 12:22:30 GMT
ashpublications.org/bloodadvances/article/4/23/6051/474421/Evidence-of-thrombotic-microangiopathy-in-children(Only a few weeks until I get my 2nd dose!....Yeah!) You'll know that from the very beginning of this I was concerned that we would see a similar pattern develop to the 1918/19 'Spanish Flu' (the last pandemic of a 'Novel Virus'?) The second wave, that drove the majority of the total deaths, focused on the young and fit. Whatever the mutation was it went on to promote wild immune system responses leading to those with robust, healthy immune systems dying within tens of hour of infection. Massive organ failure being the normal progress. We now know it as a 'Cytokine Storm' The studies into the newly witnessed 'Micro Clots' (jan/feb 2019?) had my spidey senses tingling as it was the same area of our immune system that deploys Cytokines that was deploying the clotting agent leading to the micro clots & so the ischemic issues with organs/brain? Spin on and we have the linked paper (above) showing that ALL folk who contract Covid will run the risk of developing micro clots and so 'Long Covid' issues.....no matter your age or how severe the infection was This isn't over folks!.....Get your Jabs!
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Post by Ratty on Apr 28, 2021 12:36:10 GMT
ashpublications.org/bloodadvances/article/4/23/6051/474421/Evidence-of-thrombotic-microangiopathy-in-children(Only a few weeks until I get my 2nd dose!....Yeah!) You'll know that from the very beginning of this I was concerned that we would see a similar pattern develop to the 1918/19 'Spanish Flu' (the last pandemic of a 'Novel Virus'?) The second wave, that drove the majority of the total deaths, focused on the young and fit. Whatever the mutation was it went on to promote wild immune system responses leading to those with robust, healthy immune systems dying within tens of hour of infection. Massive organ failure being the normal progress. We now know it as a 'Cytokine Storm' The studies into the newly witnessed 'Micro Clots' (jan/feb 2019?) had my spidey senses tingling as it was the same area of our immune system that deploys Cytokines that was deploying the clotting agent leading to the micro clots & so the ischemic issues with organs/brain? Spin on and we have the linked paper (above) showing that ALL folk who contract Covid will run the risk of developing micro clots and so 'Long Covid' issues.....no matter your age or how severe the infection was This isn't over folks!.....Get your Jabs! Good to see you back GW. Where have you been?
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