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Post by nobrainer on Oct 27, 2009 12:49:28 GMT
The 1029 reading is going to be very interesting...
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Post by jimcripwell on Nov 1, 2009 7:43:36 GMT
Did Livingston get a reading on 1029?
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Post by lsvalgaard on Nov 1, 2009 13:01:57 GMT
Did Livingston get a reading on 1029? yes. patience.
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Post by George Kominiak on Nov 1, 2009 17:08:11 GMT
Good Sunday morning!
I too am looking forward to seeing the results of Livingston's measurements on SS1029.
G.
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Post by partic on Nov 4, 2009 11:08:22 GMT
Getting antsy....
:-)
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Post by tsh on Nov 4, 2009 13:04:15 GMT
I'd be much more interested in seeing what the values look like in a year's time, when the new cycle is starting to get into it's stride. Immediate observations can only confirm that the effect exists - isn't the question now how far it is going to continue along the line extrapolated out to 2015, and maybe to develop some theories around causality. Changes from month to month are not far off the noise on the measurement so far as I can tell.
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Post by lsvalgaard on Nov 4, 2009 21:58:15 GMT
Good Sunday morning! I too am looking forward to seeing the results of Livingston's measurements on SS1029. G. Livnigston 11029: B = 2011 contrast 0.836 Still looking good: considering that 1029 had some large spots.
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Post by jimcripwell on Nov 5, 2009 7:38:06 GMT
Leif, Very many thanks indeed!!
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Post by nobrainer on Nov 5, 2009 12:14:36 GMT
so what happened to the expected 3000 Guass reading?
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Post by lsvalgaard on Nov 5, 2009 13:04:04 GMT
so what happened to the expected 3000 Guass reading? Nobody expected 3000 G. We expected 2000 G, and got 2011 G. Sunspots are getting warmer and have less concentrated magnetic flux. This impairs their visibility to the point that if the Sun keeps this up, spots will be invisible by 2018, just as they were during the Maunder [and Spoerer] Minimum. The spots would still be there, the dynamo will still operate and cosmic rays would still be modulated, as observed. Solar activity would therefore not come to a still stand, but the magnetic flux in spots would just be less concentrated. The F10.7 radio flux would be less affected and would not show a 'Grand Minimum' signature.
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Post by csspider57 on Nov 5, 2009 13:25:33 GMT
so what happened to the expected 3000 Guass reading? Nobody expected 3000 G. We expected 2000 G, and got 2011 G. Sunspots are getting warmer and have less concentrated magnetic flux. The spots would still be there, the dynamo will still operate and cosmic rays would still be modulated, as observed.This impairs their visibility to the point that if the Sun keeps this up, spots will be invisible by 2018, just as they were during the Maunder [and Spoerer] Minimum. Solar activity would therefore not come to a still stand, but the magnetic flux in spots would just be less concentrated. The F10.7 radio flux would be less affected and would not show a 'Grand Minimum' signature. Thanks for the simplified synopsis of the current solar cycle condition, Leif. Edit This impairs their visibility to the point that if the Sun keeps this up, spots will be invisible by 2018, just as they were during the Maunder [and Spoerer] Minimum. Is this a new prediction, based on the newer asssessments?
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Post by nobrainer on Nov 5, 2009 13:29:44 GMT
I remember a post by you (Dr.S) in the last week predicting a Guass reading over 3000, intimating some reference from L&P.
I can smell a rat.
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Post by csspider57 on Nov 5, 2009 13:35:18 GMT
I remember a post by you (Dr.S) in the last week predicting a Guass reading over 3000, intimating some reference from L&P. I can smell a rat. I don't recall his stating that, could you produce the post? Gee whiz Geoff, Dr. S. puts his socks on one foot at a time.
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Post by lsvalgaard on Nov 5, 2009 16:26:26 GMT
Nobrainer's trick is a time-honored tactic: 'smelling rats', 'not good enough', etc, to throw FUD on something not to his liking.
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Post by Pooh on Nov 5, 2009 18:32:52 GMT
... Sunspots are getting warmer and have less concentrated magnetic flux. This impairs their visibility to the point that if the Sun keeps this up, spots will be invisible by 2018, just as they were during the Maunder [and Spoerer] Minimum. The spots would still be there, the dynamo will still operate and cosmic rays would still be modulated, as observed. Solar activity would therefore not come to a still stand, but the magnetic flux in spots would just be less concentrated. The F10.7 radio flux would be less affected and would not show a 'Grand Minimum' signature. Kudos to Leif! A mark of expertise is the ability to lay out a fur-ball in a few, appropriate and well organized words. "Pooh" is awed and will try to improve.
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