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Post by magellan on Dec 4, 2012 22:02:55 GMT
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Post by sigurdur on Dec 5, 2012 0:08:49 GMT
magellan: Steven is a good place to visit once in a while for a reference to foolishness. Keeps one grounded......we need to encourage all AGW folks to check out that web page.
For sure, will learn a lot more than going to someplace like SS.
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Post by magellan on Dec 5, 2012 0:20:50 GMT
magellan: Steven is a good place to visit once in a while for a reference to foolishness. Keeps one grounded......we need to encourage all AGW folks to check out that web page. For sure, will learn a lot more than going to someplace like SS. ROFL stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2012/12/03/an-almost-bulletproof-strategy/#commentsSome skeptics thought they were winning the debate because temperatures aren’t rising, sea level rates haven’t changed and severe weather isn’t increasing. But that isn’t how the game works.
By rewriting history and dumbing down the population, alarmists have the public convinced that every weather event is unprecedented and due to global warming. A government and press corpse willing to lie and cheat, can get the public to go along with almost anything – no matter how evil or baseless.
And the money quote: 97% of German experts agreed that Jews were destroying Germany.
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Post by sigurdur on Dec 5, 2012 2:49:21 GMT
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Post by magellan on Dec 5, 2012 5:38:10 GMT
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Post by Ratty on Dec 6, 2012 5:34:10 GMT
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Post by karlox on Dec 6, 2012 9:17:55 GMT
Well, you´ve got a whole Continent for yourselves!!! ;D
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Post by sigurdur on Dec 8, 2012 15:06:32 GMT
An item of importance when looking at temperature predictions: Time series for the Southern Oscillation Index (SOI) and global tropospheric temperature anomalies (GTTA) are compared for the 1958−2008 period. GTTA are represented by data from satellite microwave sensing units (MSU) for the period 1980–2008 and from radiosondes (RATPAC) for 1958–2008. After the removal from the data set of short periods of temperature perturbation that relate to near-equator volcanic eruption, we use derivatives to document the presence of a 5- to 7-month delayed close relationship between SOI and GTTA www.agu.org/pubs/crossref/2009/2008JD011637.shtml
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Post by karlox on Dec 8, 2012 20:07:05 GMT
An item of importance when looking at temperature predictions: Time series for the Southern Oscillation Index (SOI) and global tropospheric temperature anomalies (GTTA) are compared for the 1958−2008 period. GTTA are represented by data from satellite microwave sensing units (MSU) for the period 1980–2008 and from radiosondes (RATPAC) for 1958–2008. After the removal from the data set of short periods of temperature perturbation that relate to near-equator volcanic eruption, we use derivatives to document the presence of a 5- to 7-month delayed close relationship between SOI and GTTA www.agu.org/pubs/crossref/2009/2008JD011637.shtmlSigurdur, one little question: Is that you depict a similar mechanism as to when a Sudden warming polar estratospheric episode builds up, but in longer time frames of years? (which implies cold in lower atmosphere for nothern hemisphere winters as now?)
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Post by nautonnier on Dec 10, 2012 12:01:24 GMT
An item of importance when looking at temperature predictions: Time series for the Southern Oscillation Index (SOI) and global tropospheric temperature anomalies (GTTA) are compared for the 1958−2008 period. GTTA are represented by data from satellite microwave sensing units (MSU) for the period 1980–2008 and from radiosondes (RATPAC) for 1958–2008. After the removal from the data set of short periods of temperature perturbation that relate to near-equator volcanic eruption, we use derivatives to document the presence of a 5- to 7-month delayed close relationship between SOI and GTTA www.agu.org/pubs/crossref/2009/2008JD011637.shtmlAs the SOI is related to ENSO and that is related to the cloudiness (albedo) of the central Pacific the main heat sink for the world, I would have been surprised if this link was not apparent. Identifying the causal factor(s) is the difficult part
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Post by magellan on Dec 11, 2012 16:55:21 GMT
An item of importance when looking at temperature predictions: Time series for the Southern Oscillation Index (SOI) and global tropospheric temperature anomalies (GTTA) are compared for the 1958−2008 period. GTTA are represented by data from satellite microwave sensing units (MSU) for the period 1980–2008 and from radiosondes (RATPAC) for 1958–2008. After the removal from the data set of short periods of temperature perturbation that relate to near-equator volcanic eruption, we use derivatives to document the presence of a 5- to 7-month delayed close relationship between SOI and GTTA www.agu.org/pubs/crossref/2009/2008JD011637.shtmlAs the SOI is related to ENSO and that is related to the cloudiness (albedo) of the central Pacific the main heat sink for the world, I would have been surprised if this link was not apparent. Identifying the causal factor(s) is the difficult part It would appear convection processes act like a thermostat. It certainly did not warm as advertised. Edit: pielkeclimatesci.wordpress.com/2011/02/03/self-regulation-of-the-climate-system-by-deep-cumulus-convection/
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Post by magellan on Dec 11, 2012 18:27:28 GMT
Climate "scientists" are no different than any other profession claiming they have special knowledge on future events. Gavin Schmidt wrote a book in 2004 stating Lake Powell would dry up by 2010. Why do some people put so much faith in alarmist predictions by "scientists"? Below is no different than any other alarmist climate catastrophe predictions. Gavin Schmidt couldn't have been more wrong, but True Believers keep on believing. It must be psychological; a phobic, fatalistic view of life or something. stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2012/05/07/lake-powell-has-gained-55-feet-of-water-since-gavin-declared-it-dead/Wow, this is scary. Gavin Schmidt, eccentric extraordinaire. Lake Powell 2012 ===================================== Scientists in many cases (if not most in climate) are just overpaid palm readers in search of securing their retirement portfolios. Sorry, but that is my opinion of them.
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Post by karlox on Dec 12, 2012 19:35:59 GMT
Climate "scientists" are no different than any other profession claiming they have special knowledge on future events. Gavin Schmidt wrote a book in 2004 stating Lake Powell would dry up by 2010. Why do some people put so much faith in alarmist predictions by "scientists"? Below is no different than any other alarmist climate catastrophe predictions. Gavin Schmidt couldn't have been more wrong, but True Believers keep on believing. It must be psychological; a phobic, fatalistic view of life or something. stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2012/05/07/lake-powell-has-gained-55-feet-of-water-since-gavin-declared-it-dead/Wow, this is scary. Gavin Schmidt, eccentric extraordinaire. Lake Powell 2012 ===================================== Scientists in many cases (if not most in climate) are just overpaid palm readers in search of securing their retirement portfolios. Sorry, but that is my opinion of them. News I´d like to read... Flash Science News 30 september 2020 "A general scientific consensus was reached within World´s Climate Change Experts Assembly on accepting draft paper from a multinational research team which has been able to get to understand climate´s past and present natural variability to an extend and precission of one decade, even less. From now on -once sun´s influence has been finally unvailed and we know now the exact impact of antropogenic warming in the equation, plus new advanced super powered 4-D models which are predicting with an 85% accuracy short-mid term weather forecast, 70% for 3-5 years forecast, and have been right on predicting current cooling underlying trend..."
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Post by sigurdur on Dec 13, 2012 18:54:08 GMT
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Post by neilhamp on Dec 28, 2012 8:29:54 GMT
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