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Post by sigurdur on Jul 16, 2011 4:20:34 GMT
Thermostat: I would think that he may put you to shame with an attitude like that. sigurdur, give me a break. I am the whipping boy on this forum. Whatever. But bullshit is bullshit. You aren't the whipping boy. You add demension, make people think. That is a good thing. A callous attitude tho.......that is not a good thing. Hairball asked you a legitimate question......what you knew about cycles,and if you agreed that they exist. |
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Post by thermostat on Jul 16, 2011 4:27:12 GMT
Whipping boy? Do whipping boys traditionally dole out insults? I asked you a simple question: you say that ENSO is a cycle; in what way do you think ENSO is a cycle? You have no answer because you are morally and intellectually bankrupt. hairball, You really ought to meet scpg02! Regardless you write 'in what way do you think ENSO is a cycle?' Huh? you are kidding? Right? I think ENSO is a classic cycle just like the literature describes it. |
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Post by hairball on Jul 16, 2011 4:32:48 GMT
Whipping Boy Thermostat,
Science has proven itself singularly incapable of predicting ENSO.
It goes up, down, up, down, down, up, up.
Your statement "I think ENSO is a classic cycle just like the literature describes it" is nonsense.
There is no such literature.
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Post by thermostat on Jul 16, 2011 4:35:05 GMT
Whipping Boy Thermostat, Science has proven itself singularly incapable of predicting ENSO. It goes up, down, up, down, down, up, up. Your statement "I think ENSO is a classic cycle just like the literature describes it. is nonsense. There is no such literature. wow! okay, you have nothing of substance to add. Got it. |
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Post by hairball on Jul 16, 2011 4:36:24 GMT
No, you don't got it.
There is no (non-fiction) literature saying that "ENSO is a classic cycle".
Because it clearly isn't.
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Post by magellan on Jul 16, 2011 4:40:44 GMT
Whipping Boy Thermostat, Science has proven itself singularly incapable of predicting ENSO. It goes up, down, up, down, down, up, up. Your statement "I think ENSO is a classic cycle just like the literature describes it" is nonsense. There is no such literature. AGW "science" (consensus?) predicted ENSO would be permanently in an El Nino state. Of course this must assume then the oceans would also be in a permanent state of "excess" heat accumulation as El Nino is a release of heat. Ever notice how El Nino is so important to AGW yet the prognosticators say ENSO doesn't dominate climate in any way? They look forward to every El Nino as being the Big One over and over  |
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Post by thermostat on Jul 16, 2011 4:42:50 GMT
No, you don't got it. There is no (non-fiction) literature saying that "ENSO is a classic cycle". Because it clearly isn't. hairball, what is your point? |
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Post by hairball on Jul 16, 2011 4:45:29 GMT
Thermostat,
My point is that you're full of it - as usual.
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Post by thermostat on Jul 16, 2011 4:46:31 GMT
Whipping Boy Thermostat, Science has proven itself singularly incapable of predicting ENSO. It goes up, down, up, down, down, up, up. Your statement "I think ENSO is a classic cycle just like the literature describes it" is nonsense. There is no such literature. AGW "science" (consensus?) predicted ENSO would be permanently in an El Nino state. Of course this must assume then the oceans would also be in a permanent state of "excess" heat accumulation as El Nino is a release of heat. Ever notice how El Nino is so important to AGW yet the prognosticators say ENSO doesn't dominate climate in any way? They look forward to every El Nino as being the Big One over and over Magellan, The traditional way to address such topics is to provide references. |
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Post by hairball on Jul 16, 2011 4:54:47 GMT
Hold the phone there T,
I'm waiting on your ludicrous "I think ENSO is a classic cycle just like the literature describes it." references.
Hansen and Trenberth quotes invoking El Niñomageddon aren't exactly rare.
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Post by magellan on Jul 16, 2011 5:19:00 GMT
AGW "science" (consensus?) predicted ENSO would be permanently in an El Nino state. Of course this must assume then the oceans would also be in a permanent state of "excess" heat accumulation as El Nino is a release of heat. Ever notice how El Nino is so important to AGW yet the prognosticators say ENSO doesn't dominate climate in any way? They look forward to every El Nino as being the Big One over and over Magellan, The traditional way to address such topics is to provide references. You've posted how many times tonight without one reference to anything? www.newscientist.com/article/dn20509-pacific-shouldnt-amplify-climate-change.htmlClimatologists have long suspected that the ENSO might shut down as the climate warms, with the Pacific shifting into a permanent El Niño state. news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/25433.stmWhat do you think thermostat, will a few ppm CO2 cause the earth to stop spinning and trade winds bend to its commands? Hansen loves El Nino's. He predicted a strong one for this year. You can look it up; only regular members would already know this, not drive-by posters like you. |
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Post by thermostat on Jul 16, 2011 5:31:56 GMT
Magellan, The traditional way to address such topics is to provide references. You've posted how many times tonight without one reference to anything? www.newscientist.com/article/dn20509-pacific-shouldnt-amplify-climate-change.htmlClimatologists have long suspected that the ENSO might shut down as the climate warms, with the Pacific shifting into a permanent El Niño state. news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/25433.stmWhat do you think thermostat, will a few ppm CO2 cause the earth to stop spinning and trade winds bend to its commands? Hansen loves El Nino's. He predicted a strong one for this year. You can look it up; only regular members would already know this, not drive-by posters like you. Magellan, Thanks for providing a reply. Regarding "Hansen"; huh? That's it? |
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Post by neilhamp on Jul 16, 2011 7:11:20 GMT
I see the SOI has been above +17 for the past 5 days
Is the current La Nina making a bid to last through to year end?
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Post by mclainer on Jul 16, 2011 14:15:09 GMT
Whipping boy? Do whipping boys traditionally dole out insults? I asked you a simple question: you say that ENSO is a cycle; in what way do you think ENSO is a cycle? You have no answer because you are morally and intellectually bankrupt. hairball, You really ought to meet scpg02! Regardless you write 'in what way do you think ENSO is a cycle?' Huh? you are kidding? Right? I think ENSO is a classic cycle just like the literature describes it. Perchance that be one of those mythical natural cycles? |
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Post by magellan on Jul 16, 2011 17:30:44 GMT
Magellan, Thanks for providing a reply. Regarding "Hansen"; huh? That's it? Hansen has been predicting a strong El Nino since early this year. Saying it is probable is a prediction isn't it? It's not hard to find, even with Google. I'm not looking it up for you this time. AGW promoters need El Nino's; that's their last hope for the cult. However, with each El Nino, it means more heat is removed from the system, so although it may seem counter intuitive, El Nino appears to be one of earth's ways of "cooling off". If there is a net loss of heat, does that mean global warming is accelerating? Hopefully you understand the difference between temperature and heat by now. |
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