*EL NINO/LA NINA FORECAST 2010-2011*

[sigurdur]

Ok...help me here.

www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/analysis_monitoring/enso_update/polr_c.gif

Looked at a map of outgoing LW radiation.......ya know, the stuff co2 is suppose to stop......and damit.....no wonder it is so cold in ND..........all the LW is escaping to space.

What gives??

[thermostat]

Jun 1, 2011 2:31:49 GMT sigurdur said:

Ok...help me here.

www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/analysis_monitoring/enso_update/polr_c.gif

Looked at a map of outgoing LW radiation.......ya know, the stuff co2 is suppose to stop......and damit.....no wonder it is so cold in ND..........all the LW is escaping to space.

What gives??

Sigurdur,

current observations indicate La Nina is over.

[sigurdur]

thermostat:
It may be over but there is a lag in the Central USA of approx 6-9 months.

I was curious tho, on outgoing LWR, and it shows over the NW USA that it is really leaving fast.
Being it has been so cloudy and wet here, I am at a loss. Where did the SW get converted to LW???

And why is it leaving so fast frm an already cold area?

[thermostat]

Jun 1, 2011 3:04:27 GMT sigurdur said:

thermostat:
It may be over but there is a lag in the Central USA of approx 6-9 months.

I was curious tho, on outgoing LWR, and it shows over the NW USA that it is really leaving fast.
Being it has been so cloudy and wet here, I am at a loss. Where did the SW get converted to LW???

And why is it leaving so fast frm an already cold area?

sigurdur,

I agree, the current La Nina has had its effects.

My comment was that La Nina is over now.

[thermostat]

There must be at least a few forum members to log in and comment. El Nino-La Nina what does it all mean?

[magellan]

Jun 3, 2011 3:30:29 GMT thermostat said:

There must be at least a few forum members to log in and comment. El Nino-La Nina what does it all mean?

For starters, La Nina is not the opposite of El Nino.

[thermostat]

Jun 3, 2011 3:43:34 GMT magellan said:

Jun 3, 2011 3:30:29 GMT thermostat said:

There must be at least a few forum members to log in and comment. El Nino-La Nina what does it all mean?

For starters, La Nina is not the opposite of El Nino.

Hello!

My good friend Magellan has logged in.

He writes, "La Nina is not the opposite of El Nino" .

Interesting. What is ENSO? anyway.

[AstroMet]

Jun 3, 2011 3:48:52 GMT thermostat said:

Jun 3, 2011 3:43:34 GMT magellan said:

For starters, La Nina is not the opposite of El Nino.

Hello!

My good friend Magellan has logged in.

He writes, "La Nina is not the opposite of El Nino" .

Interesting. What is ENSO? anyway.

ENSO is an acronym for El Niño Southern Oscillation. The acronym is the jargon of climate science. For the most part it focuses on the warm phase of the major oscillation cycles of the Pacific equatorial region.

Magellan is technically correct. La Niña and El Niño are what we call coupled atmospheric-oceanic phenomenon. El Nino is the warm phase of the southern oscillation and La Nina the cold phase of southern oscillation.

[codetalker]

I thought they were opposites. I stand learned! I am knowledged!

[solarstormlover54]

I can't believe it. It's snowing in June. According to local weather stations the last time was 101 years ago, More than a century.

What I can believe is that weather models are garbage. Would you believe were "supposed" to get a hot summer here and yet we get the first June snowfall in 101 years!

I'm starting to think the sun is the boss around here.

[codetalker]

Solarstormlover54

Where did this occur? If you could post a news link?

[thermostat]

Jun 4, 2011 7:11:09 GMT solarstormlover54 said:

I can't believe it. It's snowing in June. According to local weather stations the last time was 101 years ago, More than a century.

What I can believe is that weather models are garbage. Would you believe were "supposed" to get a hot summer here and yet we get the first June snowfall in 101 years!

I'm starting to think the sun is the boss around here.

stormlover,

I can't believe how fricken hot it is right now where I am. Do you have any understanding of concepts like 'global'? Local weather is irrelevant bro.

[magellan]

Jun 5, 2011 1:32:45 GMT thermostat said:

Jun 4, 2011 7:11:09 GMT solarstormlover54 said:

I can't believe it. It's snowing in June. According to local weather stations the last time was 101 years ago, More than a century.

What I can believe is that weather models are garbage. Would you believe were "supposed" to get a hot summer here and yet we get the first June snowfall in 101 years!

I'm starting to think the sun is the boss around here.

stormlover,

I can't believe how fricken hot it is right now where I am. Do you have any understanding of concepts like 'global'? Local weather is irrelevant bro.

There is no "global" warming. Thanks for acknowledging. Inform the IPCC of that please.

[thermostat]

Jun 5, 2011 2:14:05 GMT magellan said:

Jun 5, 2011 1:32:45 GMT thermostat said:

stormlover,

I can't believe how fricken hot it is right now where I am. Do you have any understanding of concepts like 'global'? Local weather is irrelevant bro.

There is no "global" warming. Thanks for \\acknowledging. Inform the IPCC of that please.

Magellan my friend,

Sorry, I don't follow your reasoning.

[AstroMet]

Jun 5, 2011 1:32:45 GMT thermostat said:

Jun 4, 2011 7:11:09 GMT solarstormlover54 said:

I can't believe it. It's snowing in June. According to local weather stations the last time was 101 years ago, More than a century.

What I can believe is that weather models are garbage. Would you believe were "supposed" to get a hot summer here and yet we get the first June snowfall in 101 years!

I'm starting to think the sun is the boss around here.

stormlover,

I can't believe how fricken hot it is right now where I am. Do you have any understanding of concepts like 'global'? Local weather is irrelevant bro.

Thermostat, there's much for you to learn about climate and weather. Why you continue to express your ignorance when there are experienced experts on this pro board is beyond belief.

For one, you haven't stated where you are located, where you say it is so 'fricken hot.' I don't doubt you; however, all local weather is not 'irrelevant' to the people who happen to live in the regions where climate conditions see unfavorable weather taking place.

We continue to see the influences of La Nina on regions of the world, especially the U.S. Right now a record-breaking anomalous cold storm is striking California.

See -> www.worldweatherpost.com/2011/06/04/record-breaking-storm-hits-california/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+WorldWeatherPost+%28World+Weather+Post%29

The U.S. Northwest has had colder-than-normal weather and the U.S. Mountain West has had record snowfall expected to lead to record flooding.

The U.S. South has had record tornadoes strike urban areas with substantial loss of life. Australia has had its coldest autumn in 101 years.

Evacuations from rising waters from North Dakota through Nebraska along the Missouri River continue.

See -> www.reuters.com/article/2011/06/05/us-usa-flooding-plains-idUSTRE7526YH20110605

Hardly 'irrelevant' to the populations who live in these regions.