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Post by missouriboy on Oct 7, 2016 2:17:48 GMT
Looks like Freeport, Bahamas took a direct hit from the front right quadrant of Matthew. No reports as the one webcam that was filming went off the air. Freeport was a nice town ... hope they make it.
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Post by Andrew on Oct 7, 2016 3:56:53 GMT
Can we just witness this as an extreme, life threatening, weather event and cut the 'point scoring' pro/con 1.2c warmer/5% more capacity to carry moisture? Graywolf your delight at what you believe is impending doom caused by human created warming is totally obvious to me, even if you are too blind to see it yourself. hopefully, something that allows folk to see what increasing storm strengths will bring to an ever wider area. Just looking at the rainfall rates from the Dominican Rep , over a 12 hr period, is chilling esp. here in our valley as Dec 26th saw a mere 3" of rain over that 12 hr period. As we warm and airmasses trend to N/S exchanges we will begin to see the likes of Dec 26th more and more frequently. As with our town folk will get used to just how useless insurance can be esp. the second or 3 rd time of needing to claim ( higher govt. input for those in need?) so the economic impacts are as worrying as the human costs as the 'local' impact becomes a 'national issue'. ......... For whatever reasons the U.S. leads the Denier grouping folk still need to accept that our planet's weather is becoming increasingly extreme with each year that passes. It is only when a high profile event takes place that Joe P. gets to see just what meeting with one of these events means. As with Australia the denial is govt. lead with Republicans blocking legislation that would moderate extreme impacts. eventually the politic will fail as day to day events wises up Joe P. as to just how quickly changes are occurring I can see you are just loving it so why pretend otherwise? If this thing hits florida as strength 4 it will be the greatest thing to happen to the green movement for decades.
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Post by douglavers on Oct 7, 2016 5:57:27 GMT
Is hurricane Matthew strong enough to disrupt the Gulf Stream?
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Post by sigurdur on Oct 7, 2016 6:29:21 GMT
Is hurricane Matthew strong enough to disrupt the Gulf Stream? No.
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Post by nonentropic on Oct 7, 2016 6:46:07 GMT
ultimately each storm cools the surface of the ocean thus reducing the probability and ferocity of the next event.
The Gulf Stream is impacted but not measurably nor materially.
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Post by graywolf on Oct 7, 2016 7:46:36 GMT
Florida doing OK. Some more eye wall chicanery but still 20 miles off shore and running near parallel to the coast. Cape Canaveral might be the spot for 'contact' but we appear at the mercy of trachoidal wobbles for the rest of the day? That said Nicole has retreated SE so any influence she may have been having will reduce ( storms tend to rotate around one other so Nicole might have been tugging Matthew out into the Atlantic?).
3 hrs to sun up and a proper look at how things are!
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Post by nautonnier on Oct 7, 2016 9:03:44 GMT
Is hurricane Matthew strong enough to disrupt the Gulf Stream? There will be a 'snail trail' of colder surface water where the hurricane has run so it will take significant energy from the surface of the Gulf Stream. However, when you consider that there is more energy in the top 3 meters or so of the ocean than in the entire atmosphere it is unlikely to be any measurable effect on the North Atlantic drift. Makes you realize how much energy is in the ocean. I am 3 miles inland of the Cat 5 storm surge and the wind is getting more interesting but like me the power still up with occasional brownout Late edit: Power out wind wild.
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Post by graywolf on Oct 7, 2016 9:13:59 GMT
The 5 a.m. update has the pressure 3mb lower than the 2a.m. report so the gulf stream does seem to be impacting allowing strengthening again. Dvorak radar showing some 140 mph sustained winds in sectors of the eye wall? Lets see if sun up impacts the strengthening?
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Post by Ratty on Oct 7, 2016 9:23:04 GMT
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Post by icefisher on Oct 7, 2016 15:20:21 GMT
Definitely nothing to joke about and , hopefully, something that allows folk to see what increasing storm strengths will bring to an ever wider area. Just looking at the rainfall rates from the Dominican Rep , over a 12 hr period, is chilling esp. here in our valley as Dec 26th saw a mere 3" of rain over that 12 hr period. As we warm and airmasses trend to N/S exchanges we will begin to see the likes of Dec 26th more and more frequently. As with our town folk will get used to just how useless insurance can be esp. the second or 3 rd time of needing to claim ( higher govt. input for those in need?) so the economic impacts are as worrying as the human costs as the 'local' impact becomes a 'national issue'. For whatever reasons the U.S. leads the Denier grouping folk still need to accept that our planet's weather is becoming increasingly extreme with each year that passes. It is only when a high profile event takes place that Joe P. gets to see just what meeting with one of these events means. As with Australia the denial is govt. lead with Republicans blocking legislation that would moderate extreme impacts. eventually the politic will fail as day to day events wises up Joe P. as to just how quickly changes are occurring ( esp. if the do not face such extreme weather events and only face drought/cold/heat events? Whatever reasons? ? How about no evidence of such? Are you saying U.S. are less prone to believe in fairy tales? If not where are your numbers? The effects of a doubling of CO2 is probably going to be an increase transpiration from the proliferation of new life on the planet. If that makes for more rainfall, it will probably be a huge boon for agriculture, food availability, water on land availability. That would almost certainly far overshadow any negative effects of more floods. Mankind is an amazing creature and greatly and intentionally improves his own habitat, and no doubt on occasion does so by accident as well.
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Post by sigurdur on Oct 7, 2016 16:40:41 GMT
Graywolf actually believes that storms are stronger etc. Even tho that belief is proven wrong by SCIENCE on a daily basis.
The op-ed pieces are not science.
The category 3 storm that is in Florida today is not an unusual hurricane.
Media likes to sell space so they create a narrative to do so. Some folks are young and.gullible.
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Post by glennkoks on Oct 8, 2016 2:04:23 GMT
Absolutely nothing "unusual" about a category 3 storm hitting Florida. What is usual is the fact that prior to Matthew there has not been a category five hurricane in the Atlantic in over a decade. The longest period of time in recorded history without one.
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Post by icefisher on Oct 8, 2016 4:19:10 GMT
Absolutely nothing "unusual" about a category 3 storm hitting Florida. What is usual is the fact that prior to Matthew there has not been a category five hurricane in the Atlantic in over a decade. The longest period of time in recorded history without one. Greywolf will let that one find the open passage between his ears.
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Post by nautonnier on Oct 8, 2016 9:42:57 GMT
Well Matthew just missed and the eye stayed offshore as it went past along the coast. That though has left entire coastal counties without power and washed out several coastal roads. No damage here but to give an idea of the wind strength it stripped all the leaves from several bushes and trees..I've not seen that before in the several hurricanes I have sat through. So we now have as much power as South Australia. But unlike SA we expect to be back on reliable power in a few days. Off to run the generator again
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Post by Ratty on Oct 8, 2016 9:52:23 GMT
Good to hear you are OK Naut.
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