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Post by phydeaux2363 on Jan 20, 2017 14:36:22 GMT
Same 350 miles east of you, Mr. Glenn. Two or three days of cold here and there, followed by a dozen April like days, and with lots of rain and fog. That being said, I have a son in Dallas who reports it's been chilly there, and a daughter in coastal Cali, where it's been downright stormy. I've always been fascinated by the weather, and with the family reporting in from around the US, it's not disappointing me this year!
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Post by missouriboy on Jan 20, 2017 21:35:55 GMT
Same 350 miles east of you, Mr. Glenn. Two or three days of cold here and there, followed by a dozen April like days, and with lots of rain and fog. That being said, I have a son in Dallas who reports it's been chilly there, and a daughter in coastal Cali, where it's been downright stormy. I've always been fascinated by the weather, and with the family reporting in from around the US, it's not disappointing me this year! Lots of mist, drizzle and clouds here. A few days of that in the 30s F makes me draw comparisons to what I imagine English climate to be like. And the wind bites to the bone in that humid cold.
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Post by acidohm on Jan 20, 2017 21:45:58 GMT
Overmodelled in that initial model outputs suggested the high pressure ridge currently over UK and parts of Scandinavia would have moved west, allowing low pressure from north russia to sink down over Europe (which it has) and uk (which it hasn't, ridge holding it off) GFS has consistently shown a strong possibility of this happening, ie cold low moving from east to west, but in the end, at least for UK and often west Scandinavia....high pressure holds this back. Obviously those in southern and eastern Europe have really felt the effects of the polar air!! Apparently these conditions draw real parallels with those at a similar point in solar cycle 23, ie, N Europe near misses regarding cold. I'm not sure how different this is to previous years, I remember Very cold periods being compared to '63 for example. I have seen parts of the Thames frozen in the lee of the meanders in the past. (Marlow, it ain't London but still reasonable in width!) So the real key to a cold uk/Europe is either this cold low pressure 'retrogressing' east to west against the usual jet stream flow, or a blocking high circulating frigid air from siberia, however both outcomes are vigorously attacked by the westerly flow from the atlantic, I guess there's just so much more energy in it?? This year has been a bit in the middle so far, jetstream is very meridional as last year, we've been just outside the warm damp northbound flow mostly and had a bit of stagnant cold air when sheilded from this, had a taste of the southward bound air recently which gAve a bit of snow...but it's not really got in the groove for a real eastern sourced winter. Much of the rest of Europe has tho....but then that's similar to last year, just this year more so... Some reasonable strong indications of some stratospheric warming however....that could tip the balance....maybe... You guys in stateside haven't had it too warm tho have you?? There was a time when all things polar vortex were blamed on warm blobs and RRR....I guess icey conditions happen anyway!! We can't complain here in Columbia. The ice storm spared us, We had 1 night mid Dec. that dropped to -2F (-18C). London Dec. temp is shaping up to be the coldest since 2010, if the first 19 days are any indication (according to Weather Underground) ... averaged 4C versus 2010 whole month of 3.3C. The CET showed -0.7C??? Hope you continue to avoid the beast. I assume that Spanish snow resulted partially from that west-to-east low that hit the coast on the 19th. It's forecast to be over London by the 24th? www.weatheronline.co.uk/cgi-bin/expertcharts?LANG=en&MENU=0000000000&CONT=euro&MODELL=gfs&MODELLTYP=1&BASE=201701100600&VAR=pslv&HH=114&ZOOM=0&WMO=&ARCHIV=0&LOOP=1&RES=0Pretty cold right now as it goes!! Frost has lain on roofs and grass all day, gonna be like that for a couple of days....guess that cold pool has splurged out a little! Just still similar to rest of winter...nothing too dramatic. ..we'll see!!
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Post by Ratty on Jan 20, 2017 22:39:28 GMT
You could be right GreyWolf. It's certainly continuing hot and above average in my part of the world. I thought you were drowning! However, I do remember Astro forecasting that summer 2017 would be a last scorcher before the descent. Here in Oz we have a variety of weather. In some places it's hot (nearly everywhere). Other places are cooler. Some areas have had rain. Others are dry. Wind and clouds are variable ...... but I did hear that 2016 was the hottest on record in Australia, by a large margin - apparently.
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Post by sigurdur on Jan 20, 2017 23:28:39 GMT
That an LP or 78 record?
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Post by Ratty on Jan 20, 2017 23:44:27 GMT
Odd you should mention that Sig. Yesterday, we took our grandson to an electronics store to buy him a project and he spotted a turntable ...... was absolutely fascinated, a bit suspicious - I think - when I told him that was how we used to play music.
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Post by sigurdur on Jan 20, 2017 23:53:39 GMT
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Post by missouriboy on Jan 21, 2017 4:00:35 GMT
I thought you were drowning! However, I do remember Astro forecasting that summer 2017 would be a last scorcher before the descent. Here in Oz we have a variety of weather. In some places it's hot (nearly everywhere). Other places are cooler. Some areas have had rain. Others are dry. Wind and clouds are variable ...... but I did hear that 2016 was the hottest on record in Australia, by a large margin - apparently. Margins are known to be a bit tricky.
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Post by Ratty on Jan 21, 2017 4:33:02 GMT
[ Snip ] Margins are known to be a bit tricky. Prostate particularly.
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Post by missouriboy on Jan 21, 2017 5:24:22 GMT
[ Snip ] Margins are known to be a bit tricky. Prostate particularly. Prostrate either way.
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Post by missouriboy on Jan 21, 2017 18:11:35 GMT
We've been hearing about the great Siberian snow cover. How come it doesn't show up as record extent in the Rutgers snow cover data sets? Eurasia snow cover in square km had been on an upward roll since about 1995. This peaked in 2013 and has declined dramatically since. Is it only stacking vertically? climate.rutgers.edu/snowcover/ By the first week of Jan. 2017, Eurasia cover had extended to 29.79 million km2, still short of its 2013 peak, which peaked in Jan., 2013 at 31.2 million km2.
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Post by gandalf on Jan 21, 2017 22:45:37 GMT
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Post by acidohm on Jan 21, 2017 22:53:34 GMT
Drought busting snow??
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Post by gandalf on Jan 21, 2017 23:14:08 GMT
I could see 2-4" of rain tomorrow! Biggest storm since 2010.
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Post by missouriboy on Jan 21, 2017 23:21:18 GMT
From the first of your posts gandalf.
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