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Post by Ratty on Feb 18, 2017 4:10:30 GMT
The similarity in disruption to N pacific and N atlantic currents has been mused here before, but I've no idea if there could be a link?? Its been pointed out elsewhere, SOI is pretty negative and a Nino is being touted for October or so.... Perhaps the Tahiti Darwin pressures and the anchovy catch will not follow the rules of Nino 3.4? What would the wiggle watchers do then? Make something up?
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Post by Ratty on Feb 18, 2017 4:33:19 GMT
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Post by sigurdur on Feb 18, 2017 4:56:07 GMT
Your temperature records are like US records. Really crappy. If they don't toe the line sleigh of hand becomes them.
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Post by icefisher on Feb 18, 2017 12:04:32 GMT
Your temperature records are like US records. Really crappy. If they don't toe the line sleigh of hand becomes them. yep, either a weather station toes the line or beatings are administered. for the perpetually recalcitrant stations its the guillotine. the severity of punishment compared to scientists who fail to toe the line closely follows the letter of existing law. scientists like in the Royal Society presentation posted here like yesterday or so usually puts it mildly and nicely in saying only that they have not adequately accounted for the effects of urbanization. Adequately would be a gross understatement when the station musical chairs and corrective action game has focused instead on supporting the models.
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Post by Ratty on Feb 18, 2017 12:53:19 GMT
There are not many (static) long term stations in Oz. Some years back, I investigated a few and did some elementary graphing ** of the data. Each site that was not a major city showed a slight cooling trend. Cape Otway, Coonabarabran, and Marble Bar come to mind. I checked Sydney (Observatory Hill) and Melbourne (can't remember the station name) an both showed a slight warming. I suspect that the same applies in other countries. ** Missouri, please don't ask to see my (Excel) graphs.
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Post by nautonnier on Feb 18, 2017 14:06:19 GMT
There are not many (static) long term stations in Oz. Some years back, I investigated a few and did some elementary graphing ** of the data. Each site that was not a major city showed a slight cooling trend. Cape Otway, Coonabarabran, and Marble Bar come to mind. I checked Sydney (Observatory Hill) and Melbourne (can't remember the station name) an both showed a slight warming. I suspect that the same applies in other countries. ** Missouri, please don't ask to see my (Excel) graphs. This was brought up before on WUWT about Darwin (a touch warmer than Brisbane).. wattsupwiththat.com/2009/12/08/the-smoking-gun-at-darwin-zero/wattsupwiththat.com/2009/12/20/darwin-zero-before-and-after/and a response to a poorly thought out letter to the Economist (a well known Climate 'Science' publication) wattsupwiththat.com/2009/12/12/sticky-for-smoking-gun-at-darwin-zero/It would appear that the BOM or someone with close access to them has had their thumb on the scales thinking nobody would notice. New Zealand has had similar problems. The GHCN homogenization algorithm should be checked. Easy to do - do the homogenization for every GHCN site using the neighboring sites as laid down. If errors are found that are greater than the claimed global warming the homogenization algorithm should be discarded and all values returned to their pre-homogenization values. A good little project for a couple of meteorology graduate students. I guarantee that the algorithm will be found wildly in error in a way that favors global warming.
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Post by Ratty on Feb 18, 2017 21:26:44 GMT
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Post by sigurdur on Feb 18, 2017 21:49:03 GMT
Don't tell your wife, and just go for it Mr. Ratty Sir!
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Post by Ratty on Feb 18, 2017 22:14:39 GMT
[ Snip ] Don't tell your wife, and just go for it Mr. Ratty Sir! You're obviously not married Mr Sig, sir. Psst: They know everything!
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Post by sigurdur on Feb 18, 2017 22:35:48 GMT
[ Snip ] Don't tell your wife, and just go for it Mr. Ratty Sir! You're obviously not married Mr Sig, sir. Psst: They know everything! Aw yes, I did tie the nuptial knot. A fine lass she was, and a fine lass she continues to be. And yes, she does know everything. I could ask her if in fact that remains true, but I really don't have to.
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Post by missouriboy on Feb 19, 2017 0:07:57 GMT
There are not many (static) long term stations in Oz. Some years back, I investigated a few and did some elementary graphing ** of the data. Each site that was not a major city showed a slight cooling trend. Cape Otway, Coonabarabran, and Marble Bar come to mind. I checked Sydney (Observatory Hill) and Melbourne (can't remember the station name) an both showed a slight warming. I suspect that the same applies in other countries. ** Missouri, please don't ask to see my (Excel) graphs. OK .. but I don't know why not.
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Post by sigurdur on Feb 22, 2017 15:36:55 GMT
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Post by sigurdur on Mar 12, 2017 16:41:36 GMT
www.climate.gov/news-features/blogs/enso/march-2017-enso-update-fenceWith La Niña in the rear-view mirror, forecasters expect that neutral conditions will continue through the spring. After that, there are increasing chances of El Niño making an appearance, but they’re still not very strong chances—around 50% by the late summer, but not quite at the point to warrant an El Niño Watch. What’s behind this verdict?
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Post by missouriboy on Mar 18, 2017 3:54:26 GMT
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Post by sigurdur on Mar 18, 2017 4:53:06 GMT
The above type of event is more common than one thinks.
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