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Post by Ratty on May 18, 2020 11:34:40 GMT
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Post by nautonnier on May 18, 2020 12:03:42 GMT
An example of medical metrics Note how the virus in UK is less fatal at weekends.
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Post by phydeaux2363 on May 18, 2020 16:27:26 GMT
"Note how the virus in UK is less fatal at weekends." That is equally true in the US. People sleep in on weekends, and we all know more rest is a critical factor in combating the scourge!
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Post by duwayne on May 18, 2020 17:36:41 GMT
Over 1k dead in Washington in spite of social distancing and stay at home orders. Not the flu. If New York has anything to teach us it is stay at home is detrimental. 60% of all new cases are from stay at home people. My guess is that most of the stay-at-home deaths in NY are from long term care facilities. Several states report over half of their deaths are from old folk's homes. New Hampshire was 72%, Pennsylvania 69%.
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Post by nautonnier on May 18, 2020 19:12:26 GMT
If New York has anything to teach us it is stay at home is detrimental. 60% of all new cases are from stay at home people. My guess is that most of the stay-at-home deaths in NY are from long term care facilities. Several states report over half of their deaths are from old folk's homes. New Hampshire was 72%, Pennsylvania 69%. That was not what was shown. Cuomo's comment was that most of the new cases were from people staying at home. I don't believe the long term care facilities were in that group
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Post by missouriboy on May 18, 2020 19:17:39 GMT
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Post by missouriboy on May 18, 2020 22:18:01 GMT
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Post by nautonnier on May 18, 2020 22:24:07 GMT
So the president has announced that he has been taking hydroxychloroquine and zinc.
Gasps of surprise all around and a procession of medical talking heads quoting symptoms of COVID-19 as side effects of HCQ and quoting the flawed VA reports.
So why would the president announce he is taking HCQ and zinc now - he didn't have to
Well there have been positive tests for COVID-19 for valets and press secretary in the White House West Wing. Nowhere else has been reported in the White House. Strange. It got all the medics at the briefings into masks and 'self quarantining' but not th e president - a well known germophobe.
I wonder if the president is sending a message to those that would love to see him catch COVID-19 that he is making it a little too difficult for them?
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Post by duwayne on May 19, 2020 0:30:17 GMT
My guess is that most of the stay-at-home deaths in NY are from long term care facilities. Several states report over half of their deaths are from old folk's homes. New Hampshire was 72%, Pennsylvania 69%. That was not what was shown. Cuomo's comment was that most of the new cases were from people staying at home. I don't believe the long term care facilities were in that group I’m not buying the idea that 66% of the people in New York who are newly hospitalized with COVID-19 were “quarantining” at home. My initial guess was that the old folks' homes were in the 66% figure but upon checking, as Nautonnier pointed out, that wasn’t so. I found an article about the Cuomo news conference which was titled “Cuomo says it’s ‘shocking’ most new coronavirus hospitalizations are people who had been staying home.” The article refers to a study which says “It shows that 66% of new admissions were from people who had largely been sheltering at home”. Now the words “largely been sheltering at home” is a lot different from staying at home. A few trips here and there matters. Another statement from the article “ Most new Covid-19 hospitalizations in New York state are from people who were staying home and not venturing much outside, a “shocking” finding, Gov. Andrew Cuomo said Wednesday”. But I wonder if the 66% figure referenced above actually is just where people were spending their nights prior to hospitalization and doesn’t indicate what they were doing during the day. Here is the chart from the article. Here is the link to the article. www.cnbc.com/2020/05/06/ny-gov-cuomo-says-its-shocking-most-new-coronavirus-hospitalizations-are-people-staying-home.html
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Post by sigurdur on May 19, 2020 4:12:36 GMT
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Post by missouriboy on May 19, 2020 16:58:35 GMT
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Post by nautonnier on May 20, 2020 1:15:08 GMT
So the president has announced that he has been taking hydroxychloroquine and zinc. Gasps of surprise all around and a procession of medical talking heads quoting symptoms of COVID-19 as side effects of HCQ and quoting the flawed VA reports. So why would the president announce he is taking HCQ and zinc now - he didn't have to Well there have been positive tests for COVID-19 for valets and press secretary in the White House West Wing. Nowhere else has been reported in the White House. Strange. It got all the medics at the briefings into masks and 'self quarantining' but not th e president - a well known germophobe. I wonder if the president is sending a message to those that would love to see him catch COVID-19 that he is making it a little too difficult for them? An interesting raucus chorus from the democrats and talking heads all concerned for some reason that the President is taking HCQ one would almost think that they were upset that their intent to seed the White House has been countered. (I get more and more annoyed with 'doctors' with TDS claiming that the lesser known symptoms of COVID-19 are actually side effects of HCQ - many of these 'talking head' doctors either are completely ignorant or have no concern for people infected with COVID-19. I have diminishing respect for these 'doctors'.)
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Post by sigurdur on May 20, 2020 2:32:07 GMT
So the president has announced that he has been taking hydroxychloroquine and zinc. Gasps of surprise all around and a procession of medical talking heads quoting symptoms of COVID-19 as side effects of HCQ and quoting the flawed VA reports. So why would the president announce he is taking HCQ and zinc now - he didn't have to Well there have been positive tests for COVID-19 for valets and press secretary in the White House West Wing. Nowhere else has been reported in the White House. Strange. It got all the medics at the briefings into masks and 'self quarantining' but not th e president - a well known germophobe. I wonder if the president is sending a message to those that would love to see him catch COVID-19 that he is making it a little too difficult for them? An interesting raucus chorus from the democrats and talking heads all concerned for some reason that the President is taking HCQ one would almost think that they were upset that their intent to seed the White House has been countered. (I get more and more annoyed with 'doctors' with TDS claiming that the lesser known symptoms of COVID-19 are actually side effects of HCQ - many of these 'talking head' doctors either are completely ignorant or have no concern for people infected with COVID-19. I have diminishing respect for these 'doctors'.) The Chloroquine hysteria is so stupid. It is one of the oldest and most used useful drugs in history. IF you have arrhythmia you MAY have an enhanced response/side effect. The percentage is small. Most don't. It killed SARS in 2005. Results clearly demonstrate it kills SARS in 2020. There is a prophylactic effect. If administered early after the onset of symptoms, the results are excellent. This is known. TDS is a pregnant dog. To ignore results does no one any favors.
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Post by sigurdur on May 20, 2020 4:08:22 GMT
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Post by nautonnier on May 20, 2020 11:39:37 GMT
Support for my position .... "Daily death toll from Covid-19 could fall to almost zero by the end of next month, expert claims
Professor Carl Heneghan is director of Centre for Evidence-Based Medicine Said if current trends continue it will be 'difficult to find people' with COVID-19 UK announced 545 deaths from Covid-19 in hospitals, care homes and private homes on Tuesday
The daily number of deaths from coronavirus could be approaching zero by the end of next month, an expert suggested yesterday.
It came as the number of deaths officially linked to Covid-19 in England and Wales fell for a third week in a row in the week ending on VE Day, providing fresh hope the worst of the pandemic may be over.
Professor Carl Heneghan, director of the Centre for Evidence-Based Medicine at Oxford University, said: 'I think by the end of June we'll be looking at the data and finding it difficult to find people with this illness, if current trends continue.'
The figures from the Office for National Statistics, which collects the official count of weekly deaths, were backed up Downing Street numbers that showed a falling toll of victims with 545 deaths from Covid-19 in hospitals, care homes and private homes on Tuesday, bringing the total during the outbreak to 35,341.
Although the 545 daily count was a jump following the usual weekend lull in recording, it was a fall of 13 per cent on the 627 tally from a week earlier. "www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8337717/Daily-death-toll-Covid-19-fall-zero-end-month-expert-claims.html
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