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Post by acidohm on May 21, 2020 10:32:53 GMT
Same here from the Antipodes, Acid. Sorry I missed seeing your 'wife' post but I came to your 'Sweden-Worldometer' post via Notifications, skipping right past. Appreciated Mr.Ratty, and np, there's no mandatory requirement to read all my ramblings 😉 Thankyou for your thoughts 😊
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Post by blustnmtn on May 21, 2020 12:14:06 GMT
My wife had sudden fever followed by strong cough 5-7 days before xmas. The cough has remained periodic, and strong, antibiotics were prescribed in january. Prior to lockdown she was prescribed a blue inhaler to help with intermittent coughing bouts, then lockdown prevented further investigation tho emphysema has been suggested as possibility. Last week she contacted GP, she was referred to hospital which is now open to routine services and we went and x rays were done same day, thankfully showing nothing concerning. A referal to a specialist is pending, however waiting times are currently low so should be a quicker then normal process. What this also did was produce a medical letter stating possible 'vunerable group' status and her work have agreed to backdate her pay, which she had not been receiving since lockdown as we decided working in her public job was an unecessary risk. This was a personal decision at the time with no medical backing, hence no pay. This may sound broadly similar to what many have experienced, ie, chest infection around xmas. Many, including Yazzi, have suggested december infections of coronavirus.....which i have disagreed with. However, anti-body tests are now available from pharmacys here, Yazzi has requested and been accepted, and will get delivered to home in next couple of days. Questions for me are, are these tests any good? Does a positive test preclude the possibility of an initial chest infection followed by later, asymptomatic CV infection. When does a adequate number get anti-body tests to demonstrate total community infections? Still a first step, hope the tests are accurate and reliable. Acid- I had an anti-body blood test a couple of weeks back through my employer. My results were negative for both IgG and IgM. I wasn't surprised. However, I have no idea how good these tests are. I hope and pray your wife gets well soon!
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Post by nautonnier on May 21, 2020 13:11:42 GMT
Same here from the Antipodes, Acid. Sorry I missed seeing your 'wife' post but I came to your 'Sweden-Worldometer' post via Notifications, skipping right past. Appreciated Mr.Ratty, and np, there's no mandatory requirement to read all my ramblings 😉 Thankyou for your thoughts 😊 My younger brother actually caught COVID-19 and got through it at home - he uses a CPAP machine and perhaps that helps. He was about 5 days into feeling better when he suddenly got a lot worse completely breathless. He was taken to an ICU and put on 100% oxygen and antibiotics as he had an 'opportunistic' bacterial pneumonia and was still shedding some SARS-CoV-2 virus but not a lot. He was back home 5 days later. The point is though that Yazzi could have a similar problem of a secondary opportunist infection. It will be interesting what the results of the antibody test are. I suspect that a lot more people than is realized have had some level of infection by SARS-CoV-2 many of them weeks before the lockdowns.
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Post by nautonnier on May 21, 2020 13:20:35 GMT
Juxtaposition of two stories in the Daily Mail. Story 1 "Commuters not wearing masks pack on to crowded Tube trains despite mayor vowing services are running at 75% capacity
Up to 100,000 travellers struggled to abide by social distancing rules on Tube People crammed on Jubilee Line and at Canning Town, many not wearing masks"Story 2"London has recorded fewer than 100 Covid-19 cases a day for a FORTNIGHT, official figures show as expert reveals 30% of hospital trusts nationwide have had NO deaths in last two days
The last time more than 100 cases diagnosed in London in a day was May 7 (149) By May 15, the most recent reliable data, that had more than halved to 52 Oxford experts say third of England's hospitals have had no deaths for 48 hours"www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8343935/London-recorded-fewer-100-Covid-19-cases-day-FORTNIGHT.htmlIt will be difficult to defend 'lockdowns' and 'phased openings' as the number of cases bounce along the zero mark despite crowded tube trains with no masks.
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Post by missouriboy on May 21, 2020 14:31:57 GMT
That tube picture reminds me of what large cities have in common. Too damn many people in too little space. OK ... I was born on the edge of the prairie ... as were my distant ancestors back in the days long before the stirrup.
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Post by acidohm on May 21, 2020 16:23:40 GMT
Thankyou Blu, Naut and Code for your comments, on the plus side NHS is now open for routine investigations so at least the issue is being finally dealt with.
I'm very keen to get Yazzi's results and you'll be some of the first to know them!
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Post by duwayne on May 21, 2020 17:19:05 GMT
Nautonnier and others, what is the best reference study which shows that the medication Trump is taking, HCQ and Zinc, is effective?
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Post by sigurdur on May 21, 2020 17:22:21 GMT
Nautonnier and others, what is the best reference study which shows that the medication Trump is taking, HCQ and Zinc, is effective? The invitro study done in 2005. The firefighters in India a day or so ago.
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Post by sigurdur on May 21, 2020 17:28:04 GMT
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Post by wheels59 on May 21, 2020 19:11:28 GMT
Best wishes to your wife for a full and speedy recovery Acid. I'll be very interested in the results of the anti-body test, as I mentioned before my wife had similar symptoms in January as did quite a few folk in and around our village about the same time. I didn't develop any of the symptoms that she had although we sleep in the same bed. I have been taking vitamin d supplements for a number of years and on checking the ingredients in a prostate pill I have also been taking for a few years I discovered they contain zinc and selenium as well so I could have inadvertently been immune to whatever it was, cv or something similar. It would certainly clear up a question in my head to know.
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Post by nautonnier on May 21, 2020 20:01:27 GMT
Nautonnier and others, what is the best reference study which shows that the medication Trump is taking, HCQ and Zinc, is effective? I will see if I can get hold of some video for you. The Trials being set up in the USA are all hampered by a lack of volunteers as the anti-Trump media has been trumpeting that HCQ causes cardiac arrest. What actually causes cardiac arrest, and large vein strokes and kidney failure is the COVID-19 endotheliitis - but these political media talking head 'doctors' keep on calling it solely a respiratory disease and everything else is caused by the drug regimen specifically HCQ. There have been some doctors actually treating patients who say that HCQ/Zinc/antibiotic starting as soon as there are symptoms is THE way to treat COVID-19 with close to a 100% success rate. Attempting to treat someone in the final stages of a cytokine storm with HCQ is unlikely to do anything and is unethical.
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Post by missouriboy on May 21, 2020 21:01:05 GMT
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Post by acidohm on May 21, 2020 22:27:40 GMT
Best wishes to your wife for a full and speedy recovery Acid. I'll be very interested in the results of the anti-body test, as I mentioned before my wife had similar symptoms in January as did quite a few folk in and around our village about the same time. I didn't develop any of the symptoms that she had although we sleep in the same bed. I have been taking vitamin d supplements for a number of years and on checking the ingredients in a prostate pill I have also been taking for a few years I discovered they contain zinc and selenium as well so I could have inadvertently been immune to whatever it was, cv or something similar. It would certainly clear up a question in my head to know. Thx Wheels, i know there are many who experienced coughs december/jan. If your Uk (?) Anti body tests are available for £60 from high street pharmacies. Though robustness of result accuracy is good to ok. Excellent would be preferred.....
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Post by nautonnier on May 21, 2020 23:47:22 GMT
"Imbalanced Host Response to SARS-CoV-2 Drives Development of COVID-19
Summary Viral pandemics, such as the one caused by SARS-CoV-2, pose an imminent threat to humanity. Because of its recent emergence, there is a paucity of information regarding viral behavior and host response following SARS-CoV-2 infection. Here we offer an in-depth analysis of the transcriptional response to SARS-CoV-2 compared with other respiratory viruses. Cell and animal models of SARS-CoV-2 infection, in addition to transcriptional and serum profiling of COVID-19 patients, consistently revealed a unique and inappropriate inflammatory response. This response is defined by low levels of type I and III interferons juxtaposed to elevated chemokines and high expression of IL-6. We propose that reduced innate antiviral defenses coupled with exuberant inflammatory cytokine production are the defining and driving features of COVID-19."www.cell.com/cell/fulltext/S0092-8674(20)30489-XNeed to ensure that your innate immune response is robust. Vitamin D, Zinc, Selenium
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Post by Ratty on May 22, 2020 1:57:17 GMT
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