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Post by poitsplace on May 31, 2010 10:21:15 GMT
The question is not JUST how much of it is coming out but also how much of it is oil. A very large portion may be natural gas. Not only does natural gas not impact the environment the same way...it will cause the leaks to have a higher apparent flow rate. Also important to note...you can't trust the high end environmental alarmist figures any more than you can trust the low end oil company figures. We're likely somewhere in the middle but there is an order of magnitude (or two) between the high and low end figures. We are most likely nowhere near ixtoc 1
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Post by stranger on Jun 2, 2010 0:21:36 GMT
From what I can gather from driller friends there is a lot of both methane and natural gas coming from the well, and the crude contains a great deal of entrapped gas as well. So BP's numbers are probably a bit on the low side for total volume - but on the high side for crude volume. We shall have to take some "tincture of time" and wait for results. But I agree, we are nowhere near Ixtoc 1, and the damage from that massive spill is a rapidly fading memory.
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Post by dusty09 on Jun 2, 2010 14:23:30 GMT
Our local long range weather forecaster has made the following prediction...
"The predicted storm developments in the Gulf of Mexico or Caribbean and expected to pass through the Gulf of Mexico will help disperse the oil slick. The forecasted thundery development or storm formation dates are:-
Around 3-4 June for thundery developments (unlikley to develop to Tropical Storm).
Around 12-14 June - significant storm formation.
Around 21-23 June - significant storm formation.
Around 26-28 June - significant storm formation.
For further details of likely formation areas and storm tracks, including for an East Pacific storm, please see:"
P.S. I hope you take BP to the cleaners or at least lock up the penny pinching fools responsible....
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Post by stranger on Jun 4, 2010 23:22:49 GMT
Dusty, the "BP" situation is somewhat muddled by reports that regulators ordered the Deepwater Horizon crew to forget SOP and put seawater down the borehole instead of cement. The weight of seawater was insufficient to keep the well under control So eleven people are dead and will have a mess on our hands for some time to come. Thanks, regulators.
Since the Federal Minerals Management Service has life or death authority over operating companies, their irrational order was complied with. And that puts much of the blame on a government agency, led by a person with little to recommend her but political activism, and staffed by individuals who sometimes came to work under the influence of methamphetamine.
While pointing fingers is all very well for the politicians, any lawsuit will involve "discovery" and I don't think the politicians can afford discovery.
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Post by sigurdur on Jun 9, 2010 17:04:08 GMT
Dusty, the "BP" situation is somewhat muddled by reports that regulators ordered the Deepwater Horizon crew to forget SOP and put seawater down the borehole instead of cement. The weight of seawater was insufficient to keep the well under control So eleven people are dead and will have a mess on our hands for some time to come. Thanks, regulators. Since the Federal Minerals Management Service has life or death authority over operating companies, their irrational order was complied with. And that puts much of the blame on a government agency, led by a person with little to recommend her but political activism, and staffed by individuals who sometimes came to work under the influence of methamphetamine. While pointing fingers is all very well for the politicians, any lawsuit will involve "discovery" and I don't think the politicians can afford discovery. Stranger Stranger: Where did you read this? I have wondered why BP would change SOP, and you have answered my question. Source of info please?
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Post by trbixler on Jun 9, 2010 18:01:40 GMT
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Post by scpg02 on Jun 9, 2010 22:22:03 GMT
Color me surprised.....not.
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Post by stranger on Jun 13, 2010 23:52:38 GMT
Sigurdur, my apologies for a slow reply. Mr. Bixler has already found a part of the written source, but much of my information comes from talking to drill rig personnel. However, Karl Denninger at the Market Ticker seems to have much the same information I have, and has put it in order: here; market-ticker.denninger.net/archives/2010/06/09.htmlAs a result of Obama's halt to drilling, a number of local crews have been called to pull the plug on Gulf operations, to go to Brazil. This will have a devastating effect on the Gulf economy, much of which depends on petro-dollars for a living. Stranger
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Post by sigurdur on Jun 14, 2010 2:49:30 GMT
Thank you stranger.
The halt to drilling is so stupid, but exactly what President Obama wants to happen. I am not a conspiracy nut, but this is getting a very fishy smell to it all.
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Post by scpg02 on Jun 14, 2010 14:42:53 GMT
Thank you stranger. The halt to drilling is so stupid, but exactly what President Obama wants to happen. I am not a conspiracy nut, but this is getting a very fishy smell to it all. That's the start of it. Many believe this was a false flag event. Especially when you consider many dumped their stock before the event.
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Post by stranger on Jun 14, 2010 15:27:22 GMT
The Oil Drum has a post with a seriously ominous message about the open Deepwater Horizon blowout: www.theoildrum.com/node/6593/648967While natural processes can take care of 10,000 barrels a day in a relatively short time, 150,000 barrels a day are quite another matter. Stranger
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Post by scpg02 on Jun 14, 2010 15:35:44 GMT
The Oil Drum has a post with a seriously ominous message about the open Deepwater Horizon blowout: www.theoildrum.com/node/6593/648967While natural processes can take care of 10,000 barrels a day in a relatively short time, 150,000 barrels a day are quite another matter. Stranger could you post that down on my oil thread in the general forum?
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Post by nautonnier on Jun 19, 2010 17:36:28 GMT
Thank you stranger. The halt to drilling is so stupid, but exactly what President Obama wants to happen. I am not a conspiracy nut, but this is getting a very fishy smell to it all. That's the start of it. Many believe this was a false flag event. Especially when you consider many dumped their stock before the event. Are there references for that?
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Post by scpg02 on Jun 19, 2010 22:49:29 GMT
That's the start of it. Many believe this was a false flag event. Especially when you consider many dumped their stock before the event. Are there references for that? Yeah but I'd have to dig them up again. I intended on adding them to the oil thread but sadly procrastination strikes again.
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Post by stranger on Jun 23, 2010 1:04:17 GMT
The upper gulf is now more than warm enough to support Cat 5 hurricanes, and the land temps are at or near the 100 degree mark in many places. So we will probably have a really interesting summer.
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