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Sept 24, 2014 2:08:05 GMT
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Post by sigurdur on Sept 24, 2014 2:08:05 GMT
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Post by douglavers on Sept 24, 2014 5:35:27 GMT
It will get truly horrible as and [probably] when the disease hits one of the giant cities.
I have lived in Lagos, already one of the most unhealthy cities in the world.
I have no idea how a disease like Ebola can be controlled in such a city. The isolation facilities do not exist on anything like the scale required.
Let us hope a vaccine can be produced soon, but I gather that is unlikely.
I think just about all air travel to West Africa should be stopped for the time being.
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Post by nautonnier on Sept 26, 2014 12:36:30 GMT
It will get truly horrible as and [probably] when the disease hits one of the giant cities. I have lived in Lagos, already one of the most unhealthy cities in the world. I have no idea how a disease like Ebola can be controlled in such a city. The isolation facilities do not exist on anything like the scale required. Let us hope a vaccine can be produced soon, but I gather that is unlikely. I think just about all air travel to West Africa should be stopped for the time being. The vaccine might be possible, but then you have to get millions (literally) of doses out, and in Nigeria in particular you are dealing with a population that was gullible enough to refuse polio vaccinations because the mullahs said it was a western plot to make them all infertile. A similar refusal to have vaccinations occurred in Waziristan - the result was polio cases in both areas. We will have to hope that there is no more infective mutation to Ebola, if that happens then the world is in trouble.
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Post by cuttydyer on Oct 1, 2014 5:01:16 GMT
The BBC reports: The first case of the deadly Ebola virus diagnosed on US soil has been confirmed in Dallas, Texas. Officials at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital say the unidentified patient is being kept in isolation. The man is thought to have contracted the virus in Liberia before travelling to the US nearly two weeks ago. More than 3,000 people have already died of Ebola in West Africa and a small number of US aid workers have recovered after being flown to the US. "An individual travelling from Liberia has been diagnosed with Ebola in the United States," Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Director Thomas Frieden told reporters on Tuesday. According to Mr Frieden, the unnamed patient left Liberia on 19 September and arrived in the US the next day to visit relatives, without displaying any symptoms of the virus. A month after returning to the US, Ms Writebol was well enough to speak to reporters Symptoms of the virus became apparent on 24 September, and on 28 September he was admitted to a Texas hospital and put in isolation. A hospital official told reporters on Tuesday the facility already had procedures in place to deal with any such potential cases. Preliminary information indicates the unnamed patient was not involved in treating Ebola-infected patients while in Liberia. Health officials are working to identify all people who came into contact with the unnamed patient while he was infectious. Those people will then be monitored for 21 days to see if an Ebola-related fever develops. According to Mr Frieden, it is possible a family member who came in direct contact with the patient may develop Ebola in the coming weeks. But "the bottom line here is I have no doubt that we will control this importation, this case of Ebola, so it does not spread widely in this country," he added. "We will stop it here." The World Health Organization (WHO) says more than 3,000 people have died of the virus so far, mostly in Liberia. Earlier on Tuesday, the CDC said the Ebola virus seemed to be contained in Nigeria and Senegal, with no new cases reported there for almost a month. It is the world's most deadly outbreak of the virus. Link: www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-29437070
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Post by flearider on Oct 1, 2014 5:24:42 GMT
so it starts ..
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Post by cuttydyer on Oct 1, 2014 13:38:06 GMT
I wouldn't be surprised if al qaeda / ISIS attempt to place infected operatives in major western capitals. Get the infected operatives to ride the subways / underground / metros then publicise the stunt - it may not by an effective mode of transmission, but imagine the panic / disruption that would ensue.
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Post by sigurdur on Oct 1, 2014 13:38:06 GMT
Sorry flea not worried about ebola. Yes, it is a nasty little bug with a fatality rate in Liver, some say, at 84% percent but this is a disease that can be avoided. The problem with Ebola is that you are sick, contagious and show no symptoms. When the symptoms become pronounced, you have potentially already spread the virus.
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Post by dontgetoutmuch on Oct 1, 2014 14:50:43 GMT
Sorry flea not worried about ebola. Yes, it is a nasty little bug with a fatality rate in Liver, some say, at 84% percent but this is a disease that can be avoided. The problem with Ebola is that you are sick, contagious and show no symptoms. When the symptoms become pronounced, you have potentially already spread the virus. Sig, In the case of Ebola, the rule is, if you are not symptomatic, you are not contagious. This does not hold true if you are a Ebola survivor, in that case you are contagious for about three months AFTER you become symptomatic, and your symptoms have ended. So for Patient Zero in the U.S., his fellow passengers on the plane are in the clear, but if you sat next to him in the E.R. for his first visit, you have a slight chance at having a grave problem.
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Post by dontgetoutmuch on Oct 1, 2014 15:30:22 GMT
In other Ebola thoughts, I have been WTF'ing over the fact that this outbreak of Ebola is not following historical patterns. It is not burning itself out. The Ebola in question has been reported as being the Zaire variant. (Note: Zaire the country is no more, think Congo.) This is the most common subtype, and unfortunately has the highest mortality. The thinking is that the outbreak has gotten this bad because the authorities in the afflicted areas are... perhaps not doing the best job ever.
Anyway, the animal vector appears to be bats.
Note: Confirmed cases and fatalities are an order of magnitude worse then any previous outbreak. Note: This data is probably under reported by a factor of three to five.
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Post by scpg02 on Oct 1, 2014 19:12:08 GMT
Saw a show about a disease in India that was carried by bats. It has mutated and can now be transmitted between humans wiping out whole villages. Sorry I can't remember the name of it.
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Post by fred on Oct 1, 2014 20:21:50 GMT
Saw a show about a disease in India that was carried by bats. It has mutated and can now be transmitted between humans wiping out whole villages. Sorry I can't remember the name of it. That would be great in the UK as bats are protected here. The disease could wipe us out but we couldn't wipe out the bats........!
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Post by nautonnier on Oct 2, 2014 11:16:52 GMT
Saw a show about a disease in India that was carried by bats. It has mutated and can now be transmitted between humans wiping out whole villages. Sorry I can't remember the name of it. That would be great in the UK as bats are protected here. The disease could wipe us out but we couldn't wipe out the bats........! At last a justification for windfarms
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Oct 6, 2014 19:26:41 GMT
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Post by acidohm on Oct 6, 2014 19:26:41 GMT
It's in Spain now, a nurse who treated a victim brought from West Africa is symptomatic..
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Oct 7, 2014 0:56:18 GMT
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Post by sigurdur on Oct 7, 2014 0:56:18 GMT
It's in Spain now, a nurse who treated a victim brought from West Africa is symptomatic.. This one won't be contained. People are too mobile. The flu pandemic happened and mobility was not nearly what it is today.
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Post by douglavers on Oct 7, 2014 6:21:24 GMT
I suspect that the real death rate in West Africa is orders of magnitude larger than reported.
Must'nt frighten the public.
Virtually all air traffic to the area should be stopped.
Its called quarantine, and the process has been known for centuries.
It will be truly awful for the countries and people involved.
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