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Post by missouriboy on Apr 7, 2016 2:03:00 GMT
wattsupwiththat.com/2016/04/03/how-much-of-global-temperature-increase-is-due-to-el-nino/A good overview by BT, the perspective how el nino relates to La Nina and indeed weather events to each other around the world. Climate scientists and those interested generally should take heed. The heat transfer events of this planet may well be operating to choatic patterns which extend outside our lifetimes. ..(someone recently observed this on this forum) If that is the case......good luck understanding this in 20 years, let alone the next 60!! I do not doubt that a true understanding of our climate system may take many generations (or many multiples thereof). However, if we are indeed heading into a prolonged solar minimum (grand if you will), then, given our current or expanded arrays of instrumentation, we should at least be able to answer some basic questions regarding the effects of our solar dynamo (and changes in its radiation) on our climate system. In the beginning, we probably knew it was warmer in daylight. How many generations were required to develop the equation: sun = day = warm? Or that Panglossian optimism that day follows night as season follows season? And, in the best of all possible worlds, would not even Candide be proud of a race of scientists and engineers that could finally prove (with 97% acceptance?) that ..."It's the sun stupid!" I guess he would.
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Post by acidohm on Apr 10, 2016 19:35:48 GMT
Completely agree it is a very exciting time to be observing our planet right now Missouriboy!!
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Post by sigurdur on Apr 10, 2016 22:30:29 GMT
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Post by neilhamp on Apr 11, 2016 7:05:43 GMT
Wow! Missouriboy
"Or that Panglossian optimism that day follows night as season follows season? And, in the best of all possible worlds, would not even Candide be proud of a race of scientists and engineers that could finally prove (with 97% acceptance?) that ..."It's the sun stupid!" I guess he would"
Its only because it was free to download on my Kindle that I know what your reference to Voltair's classic is all about.
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Post by Ratty on Apr 11, 2016 11:05:43 GMT
Wow! Missouriboy "Or that Panglossian optimism that day follows night as season follows season? And, in the best of all possible worlds, would not even Candide be proud of a race of scientists and engineers that could finally prove (with 97% acceptance?) that ..."It's the sun stupid!" I guess he would" Its only because it was free to download on my Kindle that I know what your reference to Voltair's classic is all about. Cheapskate !!
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Post by missouriboy on Apr 11, 2016 12:36:46 GMT
Wow! Missouriboy "Or that Panglossian optimism that day follows night as season follows season? And, in the best of all possible worlds, would not even Candide be proud of a race of scientists and engineers that could finally prove (with 97% acceptance?) that ..."It's the sun stupid!" I guess he would" Its only because it was free to download on my Kindle that I know what your reference to Voltair's classic is all about. Cheapskate !! My wife made me read it!
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Post by sigurdur on Apr 11, 2016 16:03:46 GMT
I agree, it is coming!
Lena said the keep the jackets handy this coming fall.
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Post by phydeaux2363 on Apr 11, 2016 16:31:46 GMT
La Niña is Coming. Here’s What That Means for You. "With a monstrous and record-setting El Niño on the wane, the implications of its disastrous worldwide consequences are starting to settle in.
But there's new evidence that, on its heels, a potentially strong La Niña could emerge later this year — bringing with it a renewed stretch of extreme weather."www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/04/08/la_nina_2016_2017_what_it_means_for_you.html For Christ's sake. Who writes this inflammatory stuff? "Monstrous and record setting." ". . . disastrous worldwide consequences . . . " Sheese. What bull crap.
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Post by acidohm on Apr 12, 2016 15:56:47 GMT
'As el nino BEGINS to subside'!!! Wake up folks.....its gone!!
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Post by sigurdur on Apr 12, 2016 16:42:09 GMT
Yep, it is long gone. Has been in full retreat for some time.
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Post by AstroMet on Apr 14, 2016 0:58:52 GMT
There was no El Nino and there will not be a La Nina this year either.
The next El Nino will arrive in mid-2019 into 2020, and it will be followed by a La Nina in 2021-2022.
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Post by dontgetoutmuch on Apr 14, 2016 1:10:21 GMT
There was no El Nino and there will not be a La Nina this year either. The next El Nino will arrive in mid-2019 into 2020, and it will be followed by a La Nina in 2021-2022. Wait, what? I'm pretty sure there was an El Nino in there somewhere...
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Post by acidohm on Apr 14, 2016 5:09:39 GMT
I reckon the definition of el nino has become quite broad...
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Post by flearider on Apr 14, 2016 10:57:17 GMT
i'm going to say a la nina after next winter so 2017-2018 and it will be caused by another big melt of antartica wich we will see next xmas . so by july aug it should be under way ..
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Post by nautonnier on Apr 14, 2016 12:26:23 GMT
There was no El Nino and there will not be a La Nina this year either. The next El Nino will arrive in mid-2019 into 2020, and it will be followed by a La Nina in 2021-2022. Wait, what? I'm pretty sure there was an El Nino in there somewhere... El Nino (The Boychild) was a name given by Peruvian fishermen for a year in which the anchovy catch failed. The anchovy catch last year was good. There was therefore no El Nino. Meanwhile in an office block somewhere some climate 'scientists' decided that a rectangle of the eastern Pacific named by them as Nino 3.4 coordinates 5S-5N and 170-120W was really important and if that area got warmer they could get all excited about an El Nino - regardless of anchovies. They duly got all excited at the end of last year and waxed poetic writing hyperbolic prose for friendly reporters. There was however no El Nino, the surface water in 3.4 did get warmer though for a few months. So statistics on everything from rain to in-gowing toenails were pored over to identify any correlations that could be excitably reported.
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