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Post by trbixler on Jan 30, 2012 16:03:24 GMT
Mr. Green in the courts. Mr. Green wants the courts to put him in charge, for the children! "Montana Supreme Court rejects the Global Warming petition by Our Children’s Trust" "As the Montana Supreme Court stated the case: Petitioners ask us to enter judgment in this original proceeding to declare that the State of Montana (State) holds the atmosphere in trust for the present and future citizens of the State of Montana. Petitioners further contend that this trust imposes on the State the affirmative duty to protect and preserve the atmosphere, including establishing and enforcing limitations on the levels of greenhouse gas emissions as necessary to mitigate human-caused climate change. But, the Court wrote, it was “persuaded” by the Attorney General’s arguments that the evidence Our Children’s Trust offered for human-caused global warming is in legally substantial doubt: … This disputed record is just one example of the factual determinations this Court would need to make to rule for Petitioners. In addition, it would need to address, among other issues, the current state of climate change science; the role of Montana in the global problem of climate change; how emissions created in Montana ultimately affect Montana’s climate; whether the benefits of energy production must be balanced against the potential harm of climate change; and the concrete limits, if any, of the alleged “affirmative duty” [to restrict CO2 emissions.] (Emphasis added.)" climatephysics.org/2011/06/15/montana-supreme-court-rejects-the-global-warming-petition-by-our-childrens-trust/
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Post by trbixler on Jan 30, 2012 15:16:52 GMT
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Post by trbixler on Jan 30, 2012 14:27:51 GMT
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Post by trbixler on Jan 30, 2012 1:31:31 GMT
My CFLs actually went up in smoke. Maybe you have had a different experience. My LEDs work long and hard, no smoke and no mercury. No fancy math to prove how good they are. My Watt meter smiles. Good for you! You're doing the right thing for the planet, the country, and humanity. However, just to be a snit, let's play with some more fancy math. Assume you buy a $47 LED today while I buy a $0.53 incandescent. My incandescent lasts 1.4 years. I then buy an LED for $30 (the cost will come down according to Moore's Law). I spent $0.53 + $30 + $14.90 = $45.43, while you spent $47 + $3.70 + $3.95 in interest + $1.64 in climate control = $56.29. I save $10.86 and also end up with a 1.4 year newer LED than yours. Glad you like to live in a police state I do not. Maybe the government is smarter than you are but I doubt it. I hope that you do not enjoy power over others it can be very destructive to everyone.
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Post by trbixler on Jan 30, 2012 0:10:30 GMT
My CFLs actually went up in smoke. Maybe you have had a different experience. My LEDs work long and hard, no smoke and no mercury. No fancy math to prove how good they are. My Watt meter smiles.
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Post by trbixler on Jan 29, 2012 18:34:36 GMT
Brrrr Wonder if all the snow will stay, its only -50. "Temperatures fall to 50 below in Fairbanks; small air carriers cancel flights" "FAIRBANKS - Winter continued to show her love of Interior Alaska by bestowing yet another cold snap on its beleaguered residents this weekend. The temperature at Fairbanks International Airport hit 50 below zero Saturday morning for the first time since 2006, while a low of 57 below was reported in North Pole. Fort Yukon and Huslia were the coldest Interior communities at 63 below zero, while two others beat their own records. Tanana hit 61 below zero Saturday morning, breaking its previous record low of 58 below, set in 1919, and Bettles, at 60 below, broke its previous record of 56 below, which was set in 1989." newsminer.com/view/full_story/17324885/article-Temperatures-fall-to-50-below-in-Fairbanks--small-air-carriers-cancel-flights?instance=home_news_window_left_top_1
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Post by trbixler on Jan 29, 2012 17:58:37 GMT
"The scare is merely a computer modeled theory" Showing that Burt doesn't understand what he's talking about. "the planet has cooled after 1998" he REALLY doesn't know what he's talking about. What data show the planet has cooled after 1998? Pg 32 of the PDF Of course you did read the document before dismissing Burt as an ignorant fool.
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Post by trbixler on Jan 29, 2012 15:06:22 GMT
Tell that to Lisa Jackson and Obama.
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Post by trbixler on Jan 29, 2012 14:47:14 GMT
More on snow in Alaska. Start of new glaciation? Starts at the top. Or is it just weather. "Alaska Buried Under Mountains Of Snow" "Parts of Alaska are literally buried under 30 feet of snow and other regions are blocked from the outside world because of frozen roadways. In the city of Cordova, near the Canadian border, two story buildings are completely covered under snow. The Cordova news paper calls the severe winter storm “Snowpocalypse”. Already double the amount of Alaska’s average annual snowfall has accumulated as snow fell continuously for 24 days. Traffic lies still, schools are closed and stores selling snow equipment are completely sold empty." www.nodeju.com/17959/alaska-buried-under-mountains-of-snow.html
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Post by trbixler on Jan 29, 2012 14:40:32 GMT
More from WUWT Burt's response (partial). "Brian, In my background of 46 years in aerospace flight testing and design I have seen many examples of data presentation fraud. That is what prompted my interest in seeing how the scientists have processed the climate data, presented it and promoted their theories to policy makers and the media. What I found shocked me and prompted me to do further research. I researched data presentation fraud in climate science from 1999 to 2010. I do not have time here to define the details; if interested in my research, a PPT or PDF can be downloaded at: rps3.com/Pages/Burt_Rutan_on_Climate_Change.htmIn general, if you as an engineer with normal ethics, study the subject you will conclude that the theory that man’s addition of CO2 to the atmosphere (a trace amount to an already trace gas content) cannot cause the observed warming unless you assume a large positive feedback from water vapor. You will also find that the real feedback is negative, not positive! Specifically, the theory of CAGW is not supported by any of the climate data and none of the predictions of IPCC since their first report in 1991 have been supported by measured data. The scare is merely a computer modeled theory that has been flawed from the beginning, and in spite of its failure to predict, many of the climate scientists cling to it. They applauded the correlation of surface temperatures with CO2 content from 1960 to 1998 as proof, but fail to admit that the planet has cooled after 1998 in spite of the CO2 content increasing." wattsupwiththat.com/2012/01/28/burt-rutan-on-schooling-the-rogue/#comment-878588
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Post by trbixler on Jan 28, 2012 22:08:09 GMT
Mr Green continues to trash our tax dollars. "Drip, Drip, Drip: Yet Another Green Energy Stimulus Recipient Hits the Skids (the third this week!)" "Earlier this week, Stimulus beneficiary Evergreen Energy bit the dust. Then, Ener1, a manufacturer of batteries for electric vehicles and recipient of Stimulus largesse, filed for bankruptcy. And today, the Las Vegas Sun reports that Amonix, Inc., a manufacturer of solar panels that received $5.9 million from the Porkulus, will cut two-thirds of its workforce, about 200 employees, only seven months after opening a factory in Nevada." www.globalwarming.org/2012/01/27/drip-drip-drip-yet-another-green-energy-stimulus-recipient-hits-the-skids-the-third-this-week/
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Post by trbixler on Jan 28, 2012 18:37:19 GMT
Mr Green continues his magic. "Obama-EPA Destroying More Jobs in Ohio, Pennsylvania and Maryland" "Washington D.C. - Senator James Inhofe (R-Okla.), Ranking Member of the Senate Committee on Environment and Public Works, said that FirstEnergy's announcement today that it will shut down six power plants in Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Maryland due to EPA's Utility MACT rule is a prime example that while President Obama is talking the talk on an 'all of the above' energy approach, his administration is aggressively working to shut down American oil, gas, and coal development. "Today, hundreds of Americans learned that they will be losing their good-paying jobs because of the Obama EPA's destructive regulatory agenda," Senator Inhofe said. "Due to EPA's forthcoming Utility MACT rule, FirstEnergy will be closing six power plants, which will put 529 Americans out of work in Ohio, Pennsylvania and Maryland - states that have already been hit hard by the recession. " epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.PressReleases&ContentRecord_id=1bbe6c06-802a-23ad-4583-04101b7f3443
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Post by trbixler on Jan 28, 2012 18:27:42 GMT
Scout 1974 "6"
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Post by trbixler on Jan 28, 2012 14:49:17 GMT
It will be interesting to see how this works out for California. Buildim in China shipim to Ca. make power in four corners. www.srpnet.com/about/stations/fourcorners.aspxNIMBY "California adopts “clean car” rules California adopts ‘clean car’ rules" "California air regulators passed sweeping emission standards Friday that will require one in seven of the new cars sold in the state in 2025 be an electric or other zero-emission vehicle. The policy adopted unanimously by the California Air Resources Board mandates a 75 percent reduction in smog-forming pollutants by 2025, and a 50 percent reduction in greenhouse gas emissions from today’s standards. " www.utsandiego.com/news/2012/jan/28/tp-california-adopts-clean-car-rules-california/
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Post by trbixler on Jan 28, 2012 14:16:52 GMT
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