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Post by sigurdur on Sept 12, 2020 21:47:27 GMT
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Post by missouriboy on Sept 13, 2020 2:36:02 GMT
Missouri farmers will like that. Our summer has been very good so far.
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Post by missouriboy on Sept 13, 2020 3:39:32 GMT
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Post by nautonnier on Sept 13, 2020 13:20:30 GMT
That article conflates two things. People unemployed due to deliberate political action with price inflation again due to deliberate political action. The USA unlike many countries has a tradition of eating out or buying t'go food so restaurants are always busy. Once the political action on the pandemic stopped restaurants and bars, the food and drink distribution systems started breaking down. As is often the case the food is actually being produced but the distribution systems have been pared down to very precise forward loading and just in time replenishment of restaurants and cannot even in months be altered to supplying to supermarkets. We are now ending up with the worst of all worlds farmers ploughing back surplus food into the ground while in other states there are queues at foodbanks being given imported canned food.
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Post by glennkoks on Sept 13, 2020 16:30:56 GMT
Sticking to a 100.00 a week grocery budget is commendable. I find chicken is the cheapest "meat" and I buy as much as 800 pounds a week of it for .48 a lb. I purchased 300 lbs of "dated" chicken at WalMart on sale for .22 the other day. I have no idea how a producer can raise chickens, have them slaughtered, packaged and shipped to WalMart and still have enough room for WalMart to make a profit. But they do it. Profit margins have to be measured in pennies. Inevitably when I am leaving WalMart with a shopping cart stuffed to the brim with 10 pound bags of chicken I get asked. "What are you doing with all that chicken? Are you going to have a BBQ?" I reply with a grin "I have to feed my pet tigers". The looks I get. The truth is I am a commercial crab fisherman and I use it for bait in my crab traps. It's even cheaper than menhaden (pogies) which are a baitfish caught by the metric ton all over the gulf and east coasts.
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Post by missouriboy on Sept 13, 2020 18:07:57 GMT
That article conflates two things. People unemployed due to deliberate political action with price inflation again due to deliberate political action. The USA unlike many countries has a tradition of eating out or buying t'go food so restaurants are always busy. Once the political action on the pandemic stopped restaurants and bars, the food and drink distribution systems started breaking down. As is often the case the food is actually being produced but the distribution systems have been pared down to very precise forward loading and just in time replenishment of restaurants and cannot even in months be altered to supplying to supermarkets. We are now ending up with the worst of all worlds farmers ploughing back surplus food into the ground while in other states there are queues at foodbanks being given imported canned food. The more rural crowd may have slightly different dining habits. I remember the commodity foods program of the 1960s where bulk basic foods were made available to those in need. Until Nixon replaced it with food stamps ... undoubtedly with pressure from the retail crowd. Perhaps it eliminated certain government expenses associated with processing, storage and distribution ... but introduced a new criminal activity in stamps. Not to mention weaning families away from home food preparation. The merchants and (some) people would scream, but I think they should return to some version of the old system. The commodities program was heavy on dried and powdered, supplemented with some canned products. I still remember the dried egg powder, dried hash brown potatoes and dried ham bits. Great backpacking food. Survivalist merchants charge buku $ for such things these days.
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Post by missouriboy on Sept 13, 2020 18:44:28 GMT
I'm interested in what a typical shopping trip looks like? It looks like an Aldi's store. AND, Marta is heavy on grains, beans, legumes, potatoes, fresh vegetables of all types and fruits (in quantity), plus yogurt. Meat is typically chicken (bulk) and ground turkey supplemented by small quantities of fish, shrimp and beef when on sale. The later is getting outrageous. Thinking about negotiating a new deal with the cattle raisers that cut and bale the hay on the farm. Currently get the market price for 1/3 of the bales. New deal: take our cut in cow carasses delivered to local processor. I just bought 50 lbs of the "good" parts and it was going for $7.50 per pound cut and packaged. Need to get the garden expanded in town. Lots of 1880s variety onions and hard neck garlic growing like weeds (minature energy balls). Unlike the farm which is 15 miles away, the town lot soils are piss poor and need a lot of mixing in raised beds with mulch and compost. Takes a while for even triple ground wood mulch to break down. It packs down and inhibits young root growth. AND THEN THERE ARE THE URBAN DEER.
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Post by sigurdur on Sept 13, 2020 20:40:31 GMT
I'm interested in what a typical shopping trip looks like? It looks like an Aldi's store. AND, Marta is heavy on grains, beans, legumes, potatoes, fresh vegetables of all types and fruits (in quantity), plus yogurt. Meat is typically chicken (bulk) and ground turkey supplemented by small quantities of fish, shrimp and beef when on sale. The later is getting outrageous. Thinking about negotiating a new deal with the cattle raisers that cut and bale the hay on the farm. Currently get the market price for 1/3 of the bales. New deal: take our cut in cow carasses delivered to local processor. I just bought 50 lbs of the "good" parts and it was going for $7.50 per pound cut and packaged. Need to get the garden expanded in town. Lots of 1880s variety onions and hard neck garlic growing like weeds (minature energy balls). Unlike the farm which is 15 miles away, the town lot soils are piss poor and need a lot of mixing in raised beds with mulch and compost. Takes a while for even triple ground wood mulch to break down. It packs down and inhibits young root growth. AND THEN THERE ARE THE URBAN DEER. Magnesium problem there Missouriboy. You need to apply some gypsum.
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Post by glennkoks on Sept 13, 2020 21:56:26 GMT
Sticking to a 100.00 a week grocery budget is commendable. I find chicken is the cheapest "meat" and I buy as much as 800 pounds a week of it for .48 a lb. I purchased 300 lbs of "dated" chicken at WalMart on sale for .22 the other day. I have no idea how a producer can raise chickens, have them slaughtered, packaged and shipped to WalMart and still have enough room for WalMart to make a profit. But they do it. Profit margins have to be measured in pennies. Inevitably when I am leaving WalMart with a shopping cart stuffed to the brim with 10 pound bags of chicken I get asked. "What are you doing with all that chicken? Are you going to have a BBQ?" I reply with a grin "I have to feed my pet tigers". The looks I get. The truth is I am a commercial crab fisherman and I use it for bait in my crab traps. It's even cheaper than menhaden (pogies) which are a baitfish caught by the metric ton all over the gulf and east coasts. Where are you based? Where do you crab? Galveston bay. For both Blue and Stone crabs.
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Post by nautonnier on Sept 16, 2020 16:06:27 GMT
"Brazil Is Running Out of Space to Store Its Coffee
Brazil has an unprecedented coffee problem -- too many beans and nowhere to store them.
Warehouses in the world’s largest coffee exporter have never been so full, and trucks in Brazil’s coffee heartland are waiting days to unload cargo collected from a record crop during a time when global demand is waning.
The issue has come to a boil in Franca, about a five-hour drive north of Sao Paulo, where about 90 trucks brimming with coffee are stuck in line outside a warehouse operated by Dinamo.
“Just two days ago, it was 40 or 50 trucks,” Luiz Alberto Azevedo Levy Jr., a director at Dinamo, said in a phone interview. “We are very close to our maximum capacity.”"www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-09-15/brazil-is-awash-with-coffee-and-running-out-of-space-to-store-it
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Post by sigurdur on Oct 5, 2020 20:27:28 GMT
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Post by nonentropic on Oct 5, 2020 20:33:51 GMT
Prices Sig.
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Post by sigurdur on Oct 6, 2020 19:31:09 GMT
Soybeans have gone up $1.50 in the past month. Wheat and corn have also risen. Wheat about $0.40 and corn about 2 bits
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Post by nonentropic on Oct 6, 2020 20:00:44 GMT
Pleased!!
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Post by missouriboy on Nov 26, 2020 14:12:24 GMT
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