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Post by acidohm on Jul 25, 2020 7:31:45 GMT
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Post by nautonnier on Jul 25, 2020 8:06:22 GMT
And they never leave their abode for food, clothing, social activities etc. Quite, but how differently do they behave when doing so after awareness of pandemic. Its all about minimising risk. The risk appears to be from spending time in close quarters with someone infected. The distancing rules should also have a time element from various places walking past someone in a supermarket is low risk but spending several hours 'socially distanced' but in the same room is high risk. Cold and wet and hot but with air conditioning both naturally get people to gather for hours in the same room. Lockdown did precisely the same. As someone said with a virus where you have to be tested to find out you have it as the symptoms are so mild with most people, it should have only been the vulnerable that were kept safe. Making everyone stay close guaranteed the spread of infection inside households.
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Post by duwayne on Jul 25, 2020 14:17:10 GMT
I think they are out to get me.
Yesterday, the day after I opined that US COVID-19 daily new cases were likely to decline, there were 1,043,124 COVID tests administered. That’s 22% more tests than on any previous day.
They’ll do anything to hide the decline.
This is reminiscent of the Climategate attempt to “hide the decline” in global temperatures.
Please don’t use the word paranoid in any comments.
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Post by acidohm on Jul 25, 2020 20:15:37 GMT
The thing you want to do if a contagion is spreading amongst a population, is test as many people as possible.
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Post by glennkoks on Jul 25, 2020 22:21:23 GMT
My experience with Covid has been extremely mild. Seven days after running a low grade fever and four days after testing positive my daughter and the rest of the household have been asymptomatic. However my ex wife who lives in North Texas tested positive several weeks ago has had a much tougher go of it. She was hit hard and has been battling symptoms for days. Last night they rushed her to the hospital with breathing difficulties and is serious condition with blood clots and a partially collapsed lung. Mid forties, healthy with no pre-existing conditions. Apparently much has been noted about abnormal blood clotting with Covid. I have no idea why some people are hit so hard and others brush it off easily. news.weill.cornell.edu/news/2020/07/what-is-known-about-covid-19-and-abnormal-blood-clotting
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Post by sigurdur on Jul 25, 2020 22:26:44 GMT
My experience with Covid has been extremely mild. Seven days after running a low grade fever and four days after testing positive my daughter and the rest of the household have been asymptomatic. However my ex wife who lives in North Texas tested positive several weeks ago has had a much tougher go of it. She was hit hard and has been battling symptoms for days. Last night they rushed her to the hospital with breathing difficulties and is serious condition with blood clots and a partially collapsed lung. Mid forties, healthy with no pre-existing conditions. Apparently much has been noted about abnormal blood clotting with Covid. I have no idea why some people are hit so hard and others brush it off easily. news.weill.cornell.edu/news/2020/07/what-is-known-about-covid-19-and-abnormal-blood-clottingGlad to hear your daughter is doing well. The blood clotting thing affects a small subset of patients. A very serious complication.
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Post by sigurdur on Jul 25, 2020 23:11:27 GMT
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Post by slh1234 on Jul 26, 2020 2:30:35 GMT
This was posted by an old high school friend whom I happen to trust a lot. She posted it publicly on her Facebook page today, and her husband (physician) later shared it. They live in Colorado:
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Post by missouriboy on Jul 26, 2020 3:45:14 GMT
Don't know why an insurance company would complain about a $5/day treatment if prescribed by a physician, when compared to the possible buku $s that an emergency room visit or inpatient hospitalization would cost. That and the higher costs of other prescriptions. The "bottom line" is normally their chief concern.
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Post by slh1234 on Jul 26, 2020 4:33:55 GMT
Don't know why an insurance company would complain about a $5/day treatment if prescribed by a physician, when compared to the possible buku $s that an emergency room visit or inpatient hospitalization would cost. That and the higher costs of other prescriptions. The "bottom line" is normally their chief concern. My question is "what if the person just pays out of pocket." I was given an example where that was also refused. I have a cousin and a former student who are pharmacists. I am following up with those angles to see what their answer is.
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Post by missouriboy on Jul 26, 2020 5:14:40 GMT
Don't know why an insurance company would complain about a $5/day treatment if prescribed by a physician, when compared to the possible buku $s that an emergency room visit or inpatient hospitalization would cost. That and the higher costs of other prescriptions. The "bottom line" is normally their chief concern. My question is "what if the person just pays out of pocket." I was given an example where that was also refused. I have a cousin and a former student who are pharmacists. I am following up with those angles to see what their answer is. That was my thought as well. May ask my local pharmacy if they have a position on that. May also ask my physician if he would prescribe hydroxychloroquine for an extended trip to the Bay Islands of Honduras. Shelf life should not be a problem.
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Post by nautonnier on Jul 26, 2020 11:55:17 GMT
Don't know why an insurance company would complain about a $5/day treatment if prescribed by a physician, when compared to the possible buku $s that an emergency room visit or inpatient hospitalization would cost. That and the higher costs of other prescriptions. The "bottom line" is normally their chief concern. My question is "what if the person just pays out of pocket." I was given an example where that was also refused. I have a cousin and a former student who are pharmacists. I am following up with those angles to see what their answer is. There are two ways of looking at this neither of them good.... 'medical explanation' - At the start of the real pandemic everyone was considering COVID-19 as purely a respiratory disease of the lungs. Some doctors only used HCQ when it was really too late to use it. After they started HCQ the patient had blood clotting problems kidney problems and heart arythmia, strokes and heart attacks. Those cannot be the result of a respiratory disease THEREFORE HCQ causes (choose any 2 or 3) blood clotting problems kidney problems and heart arrhythmia, strokes and heart attacks. Ban the use of HCQ because of these side effects! The ban on HCQ continued despite solid evidence that these problems were caused by SARS-CoV-2, indeed you will STILL hear the occasional talking head claiming these are 'the side effects of HCQ'. I am amazed at the ignorance of doctors about the disease of the century. Venal Explanation The medical and pharma community stand to make a fortune literally tens of $billions from vaccinations and other treatments. (A different way of delivering interferon to the lungs that may reduce symptoms in 70% (HCQ/zinc cures >90%) has made the three UK doctors running the small company millionaires over night - would they say no use HCQ/Zinc it's cheaper?) The media is also all against HCQ and for expensive less effective drugs. So a directive has been put out saying don't prescribe HCQ even if a doctor asks for it this was the directive from the governors of several states and some 'high street' pharmacies have had directions from their management. There should be a medical inquiry into this as it is apparent that many people died due this and other decisions. The lack of 'scientific' governance in the medical world is astounding.
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Post by nautonnier on Jul 26, 2020 12:20:49 GMT
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Post by Ratty on Jul 26, 2020 12:47:05 GMT
I said that first!
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Post by gridley on Jul 26, 2020 14:00:53 GMT
The thing you want to do if a contagion is spreading amongst a population, is test as many people as possible. Agreed. So who here has gotten a call from their state/county/city health department telling them they've been randomly selected to be screened? Who is from an area where the *entire* population has been screened?
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