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Post by sigurdur on Nov 10, 2016 1:27:18 GMT
Some say it will be a breath of fresh air.
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Post by Ratty on Nov 10, 2016 7:29:08 GMT
Some say it will be a breath of fresh air.
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Post by sigurdur on Nov 12, 2016 3:00:52 GMT
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Post by sigurdur on Nov 12, 2016 3:02:41 GMT
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Post by sigurdur on Nov 12, 2016 3:33:50 GMT
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Post by graywolf on Dec 6, 2016 17:54:23 GMT
Well the ENSO wrap up; www.bom.gov.au/climate/enso/#tabs=Overviewtells us "The likelihood of La Niña developing in the coming months is now low" So the thread is dead. Anyone opening a 'Nino 2018/19 thread.....................
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Post by acidohm on Dec 6, 2016 18:03:43 GMT
Well....a nino was needed to bump up temps, but a nina has not been needed to plummet temps faster then usual (conservative, figures not yet in waiting Tisdale analysis....) So.......
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Post by graywolf on Dec 6, 2016 18:30:37 GMT
Don't let yourself be fooled or grasp at what you want to see rather than actually see what is there to be seen?
The telling thing will be whether we see temps rise to surpass the Nino peak before the next Nino steps in? With Asian forced 'dimming' now reducing and the Arctic milking more and more energy from the open waters who needs the extra 3+ppm of GHG's to prop up temps?
The 'bleed in' of surface warmth from either side of the equatorial oceanic strip is what stopped nina getting a hold way back in M/J/J ? You cannot have a Pacific so overheated and not expect that heat to drift esp. when cyclones arrive on the scene?
The other thing has to be atmospheric cooperation and we still see an atmosphere more likely to support Nino than Nina?
None of this is funny. We will crash through 1.5c (over 1880 temps) before 2025 and even sooner if I get my pre 2020 Nino?
That in itself spells trouble being well ahead of any modelled outcomes.
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Post by acidohm on Dec 6, 2016 18:53:36 GMT
Gosh GW....Someone put something in your tea this evening??
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Post by nonentropic on Dec 6, 2016 19:12:42 GMT
GW what portion of that projected 1.5C do you atribute to AGW?
Realizing that AGW pre 1950 was essentially trivial and very certainly far less than errors.
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Post by missouriboy on Dec 6, 2016 19:22:07 GMT
Don't let yourself be fooled or grasp at what you want to see rather than actually see what is there to be seen? The telling thing will be whether we see temps rise to surpass the Nino peak before the next Nino steps in? With Asian forced 'dimming' now reducing and the Arctic milking more and more energy from the open waters who needs the extra 3+ppm of GHG's to prop up temps? The 'bleed in' of surface warmth from either side of the equatorial oceanic strip is what stopped nina getting a hold way back in M/J/J ? You cannot have a Pacific so overheated and not expect that heat to drift esp. when cyclones arrive on the scene? The other thing has to be atmospheric cooperation and we still see an atmosphere more likely to support Nino than Nina? None of this is funny. We will crash through 1.5c (over 1880 temps) before 2025 and even sooner if I get my pre 2020 Nino? That in itself spells trouble being well ahead of any modelled outcomes. I'm still waiting for someone to provide an explanation of how CO2 warms the tropical (or any) ocean given that IR radiation does not penetrate the oceanic water column. You really do need a viable mechanism and I have not seen one. I'm waiting patiently.
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Post by acidohm on Dec 6, 2016 19:50:10 GMT
Don't let yourself be fooled or grasp at what you want to see rather than actually see what is there to be seen? The telling thing will be whether we see temps rise to surpass the Nino peak before the next Nino steps in? With Asian forced 'dimming' now reducing and the Arctic milking more and more energy from the open waters who needs the extra 3+ppm of GHG's to prop up temps? The 'bleed in' of surface warmth from either side of the equatorial oceanic strip is what stopped nina getting a hold way back in M/J/J ? You cannot have a Pacific so overheated and not expect that heat to drift esp. when cyclones arrive on the scene? The other thing has to be atmospheric cooperation and we still see an atmosphere more likely to support Nino than Nina? None of this is funny. We will crash through 1.5c (over 1880 temps) before 2025 and even sooner if I get my pre 2020 Nino? That in itself spells trouble being well ahead of any modelled outcomes. I'm still waiting for someone to provide an explanation of how CO2 warms the tropical (or any) ocean given that IR radiation does not penetrate the oceanic water column. You really do need a viable mechanism and I have not seen one. I'm waiting patiently. You just gotta Believe and have Faith.....
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Post by acidohm on Dec 6, 2016 19:52:58 GMT
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Post by graywolf on Dec 6, 2016 22:05:32 GMT
My god Tisdale agrees with me!!!!
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Post by acidohm on Dec 6, 2016 22:07:03 GMT
My god Tisdale agrees with me!!!! "None of this is funny. We will crash through 1.5c (over 1880 temps) before 2025 and even sooner if I get my pre 2020 Nino? That in itself spells trouble being well ahead of any modelled outcomes." Not sure about that???
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